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6 PUL /6 CITY

(Nos.3001-3020 & 3041-3043)

 

Approaching 4pm on Sunday 24th April 1966 and 6 CITY unit no.3041 working the L.C.G.B. (Croydon Branch) ‘The PUL /PAN Farewell Rail Tour’ (alongside green-liveried 4 BIG 7035) awaiting departure from Brighton for the final leg to Victoria.

With the late delivery of 4 BIG unit nos.7047 & 7048, this unit continued in service as a standby for another month and saw occasional use on the 14:25 Brighton to Victoria returning on the 17:23 Victoria to Brighton with Pullman car ‘Alice’ in use.

© BloodandCustard

 

 

Express Electric Trains
 for the Brighton Line

Alongside the construction of the 4 LAV units in 1931 /1932 for the semi-fast and stopping services on the newly electrified Brighton line, came the twenty-three 6-car corridor units for the express services. These comprised twenty 6 PUL units and a further three 6 CITY units which had a higher proportion of first class seating for use on certain business trains.

 

Experimental Unit No.2001

Prior to the introduction of the production units, an experimental unit numbered 2001 was operated on the Brighton Line in the autumn of 1932. It consisted of three modified steam-hauled coaches and a Pullman with a new motor coach at each end, similar to those which eventually appeared on the production units. Built in October 1931, these motor coaches were numbered 11001 & 11002 and were of all-steel construction. 11001 was built by Birmingham Railway Carriage & Wagon Company Ltd whilst 11002 came from Metro-Cammell. Each was were 65' 11" long, weighed 57 tons and were equipped with four BTH 163 225hp motors with Metro-Vick control equipment.

To diagram no.2108, car 11001 had flat sides without the lower tumblehome found on 11002 (diagram no.2109) and all the production vehicles, this being due to a final decision on the body shape of main line electric stock only being finalised after these vehicles had been delivered for comparison with the main-line curved profile being preferred.

The motor bogies on these two experimental motor coaches differed from the production cars by having a smaller journal size of 10" x 5½", the remainder having 11" x 5½" journals.

At the leading end was the motorman's cab entered by inwards opening door, followed by the guard's brake 8' 7¾" wide, a vestibule with side access doors, then a seven bay passenger saloon seating 56 and another entrance vestibule. Sliding doors divided the passenger saloon from the end vestibules. These two motor coaches were completed in October 1931 and were subsequently incorporated into two of the 6 CITY units, one each to unit no.3041 & 3042.

 

Pullman car schedule no.276 (Naomi with late Pullman crest in unit no.3011) at East Croydon in 1965. Due to poor condition, Naomi was replaced by schedule no.268 (Peggy) on 19th August 1965. Car schedule no.276 was withdrawn 30th October 1965 and sold for scrap to A. King Ltd. at Norwich on 18th June 1966.

© Chris Wilson collection

 

Production Units

The main batch of 6 PUL and 6 CITY sets commenced service at the start of 1933 (though many were ready earlier) the first trial runs taking place in October 1932 with units nos.2013 (first into traffic) and 2002.

Unit no.2013’s pair of motor coaches were built by the Metropolitan Cammell Carriage, Wagon & Finance Company Ltd (MCW) trading as Metro-Cammell and unit no.2002 pair of motor coaches were built by Birmingham Railway Carriage & Wagon Company Ltd (BRCW).

All the trailer coaches were built at Eastleigh and the units were marshalled with the corridor sides of the three ordinary trailers all to the same side. The Pullman cars were all built by Metro-Cammell at Birmingham.

Motor Coaches

The order for the forty-four Motor Coaches was again split between BRCW (11003 ‑ 11024) and Metro‑Cammell (11025 - 11046). These vehicles were similar to experimental motor coaches 11001 & 11002, but differed by having a wider guard's brake (10' 6½") which reduced the passenger saloon to 6½ bays and the seating capacity to 52. The odd half-bay was situated at the van end of the saloon and there was a partition towards the centre of the coach dividing the saloon into 3 and 3½ bays. Smoking was permitted in the larger 3½ bay saloon.

Electrical equipment was identical, but the vehicles were heavier at 59 tons, these vehicles being to diagram No. 2107. Both motor bogies had shoegear fitted, these bogies complete with motors weighing just under 16 tons. Bogies were at 44' 6" centres and the vehicles were 63' 6" long over bodies, 66' 2¾" over buffer faces. These motor coaches, like the prototypes, were unusual in having non-standard box girder underframes without any lower trussing.

Each motor coach was fitted with a 5kw motor generator to supply 70v current for lighting and control purposes, and emergency batteries were fitted in racks between the cab and guard's compartment to supply train lighting for about 30 minutes in the event of the main supply being lost.

Trailer Third Cars

The four Corridor Trailer Third Cars in each unit consisted of a trailer third (TTK), a trailer composite (TCK), a Pullman composite (PC) and another TCK.

The TTK had eight full compartments each seating eight and a coupe (half compartment) seating four. Full compartments were 6' 3" wide whilst the coupe was 4' 5" wide. There was a lavatory at each end, all joined by a side corridor, and the coach seated 68 third class passengers. It weighed 35 tons and was 63' 6" long, (66' 2¾" over buffers) and was marshalled in the unit with the coupe compartment at the opposite end to the adjacent MBT. Smoking was permitted in the three compartments at the MBT end of the coach and also the three full and coupe compartment at the opposite end. Each compartment had a side access door and there were four along the corridor side spaced opposite the partitions of alternate compartments. The diagram No. 2010 was allocated to these vehicles. Bogie centres were again at 44' 6" and each trailer bogie weighed just under 7¾ tons, being of the ‘equalising beam’ type.

Trailer Composite Cars

The two Corridor Trailer Composite Cars each had five first-class compartments seating six and three third-class compartments seating eight. Third-class compartments were again 6' 3" wide whilst the firsts were 7' 1¾" wide. Smoking was allowed in the two third-class compartments at each end of the group of three and also in the two first-class compartments adjacent to the third-class and the last one at the opposite end of the coach. A side corridor was again provided as was a lavatory at each end. The seating capacity was 30 first and 24 third.

Side access doors were again provided in each compartment, there being five doors along the corridor side, from the first class end these being located opposite the partition of the first and second compartments, opposite the doorway of the third and opposite the partition of forth /fifth, the final two being opposite the partitions of the third class compartments. A swing door in the corridor divided the first and third class sections of the coach.

The TCK marshalled between the Pullman and the motor coach had the first class end adjacent to the motor coach, the other had the first class end adjacent to the Pullman

Weighing 36 tons and 63' 6" long (66' 3" over buffers) with identical bogies to the TTK vehicles the TCK cars were to diagram No. 2309.

An unusual feature of the side corridor trailers in the 6 PUL and 6 CITY units (which was also found in the corridor trailer of the 4 LAV units) was the double opening sliding doors separating the compartment from the corridor. Also, the motor coaches had side windows which opened with a patent balance system and the ventilation louvre was set above them. These features were not perpetuated in the later 6 PAN sets.

Both TCK and TTK cars were of steel panelled construction on a hardwood framing and had timber and canvas roofs, all mounted on a heavy steel underframe built at Ashford, whilst the bodies were constructed at Eastleigh works. The underframes for all the 6 PUL trailers were to order No. HO 3275, the bodies being to Order No.570.

Pullman (Trailer Composite) Cars

Like the motor coaches the Pullman (Trailer Composite) Car was of all-steel construction and was built by Metro-Cammell. Each comprised a vestibule with inwards opening doors, a small pantry followed by a third-class saloon with 16 seats, a lavatory, a first-class compartment for four, a first-class saloon with 8 seats, the kitchen & pantry area and another entrance vestibule. The short side-corridor past the lavatory and first-class compartment area was on the opposite side to that past the kitchen /pantry area. Each Pullman car weighed 43 tons and was 68' 8¾" long over buffers, again having identical bogies to the other trailer coaches in the unit.

Kitchen equipment in the Pullman cars was all electric and supplied with 110v current from a 20kw motor generator mounted below the underframe.

All Pullman cars were allocated ‘schedule numbers’ in the Pullman 2xx series from 263 to 278 and 294 to 300 (these numbers being carried on a cast steel plate on the vehicle end). All these Pullman cars carried names.

When built, the Pullman cars had some of their interior fittings supplied by different contractors so not all were identical inside thus provide variety in decor. All cars were mounted on equalising beam bogies, these not giving a very smooth ride and following increasing complaints about poor riding and deterioration of these bogies, a replacement programme was authorised in late 1955 to replace them with conventional leaf sprung bogies; all units were fitted with these by 1958. Whilst units were being modified, some Pullman cars were used in 6 PAN units for short periods. Bogies were modified at Brighton works and exchanged at Peckham Rye shops.

 

Pullman Car Names & Schedule Numbers

Sch.

Name

Sch.

Name

Sch.

Name

263

Ida

264

Ruth

265

Rose

266

Violet

267

May

268

Peggy

269

Clara

270

Ethel

271

Alice

272

Gwladys

273

Olive

274

Daisy

275

Anne

276

Naomi

277

Lorna

278

Bertha

294

Brenda

295

Elinor

296

Enid

297

Grace

298

Iris

299

Joyce

300

Rita

 

 


 

 

Now classed as a 6 PUL, former 6 CITY unit no.3043 leaves East Croydon platform 3 with an Ore /Eastbourne to Victoria train c.1965. Many of the original Brighton Express stock units did not receive small yellow warning panels

Note the long-gone centre sidings between platforms 2 and 3 above the station’s subway (now out of use).

The scaffolding alongside the new Post Office bridge would not now conform to current safety requirements.

© Chris Wilson collection

 

6 CITY Units

The three 6 CITY sets differed from the 6 PUL units in that the three ordinary trailers were corridor firsts, each with seven 6 seat compartments and a lavatory at each end. Each compartment was 7' 1¾" wide. These coaches seated 42 first and weighed 34½ tons. They were also slightly shorter than the 6 PUL trailers at 59' 0" (61' 8¾" over buffers) and bogie centres were at 40' 0".

All compartments had side access doors, there being four along the corridor side located opposite the partitions between the first /second, third /forth, forth /fifth and sixth /seventh compartments. The diagram number of these vehicles was 2506, and the underframe order number was HO 3276 with the bodies again to order No. 570. Smoking in all three of these coaches was permitted in three compartments at one end and two at the other. One 6 CITY set (2043) therefore seated 138 first and 120 third (12F and 16S in the Pullman again). Units weighed 264½ tons and were 385' 6" long. They were numbered 2041 ‑ 2043 but this was altered to 3041 ‑ 3043 from January 1937.

However, units nos.3041 and 3042 both included one of the experimental 56 seat motor coaches mentioned earlier and this increased their third class seating capacity to 124 whilst reducing their overall weight to 262½ tons.

 

Into Traffic

Sets of trailers cars were ready at Eastleigh before the delivery of the Pullman and motor coaches and entered service in numbered triples in the order that the units entered traffic (i.e. unit no.2013 first into traffic with 10001 /11751/ 11752), so trailer coaches were not allocated to units in any numerical sequence.

The 6 PUL units were numbered from 2001 ‑ 2020 but were renumbered 3001 ‑ 3020 in January 1937. The overall length of these sets was 399' 0" and their total weight was 268 tons. They seated 72 first and 236 third of which 12 first and 16 third were in the Pullman car.

Units were coupled by means of side buffers and screw couplings, not the buckeye automatic couplers fitted to contemporary steam stock.

Prior to the introduction of the 6 PAN units for the Eastbourne /Hastings electrification scheme, these units were described in operating publications as 6 COR, the 5-car all-Pullman units being 5 PUL. Those trains rostered to be covered by one of the 6 CITY units were also shown as 6 COR with a footnote specifying units nos.2041 ‑ 2043. Once the 6 PAN units were in service the units were then shown as 6 PUL for the remainder of their lives, the all‑Pullman units then being shown as 5 BEL.

 

Two 6 PUL units running together wasn’t particularly common; here units nos.3013 & 3009 approach Haywards Heath forming the 4.48pm Victoria - Ore service on Monday 6th July 1964.

© Chris Wilson collection

 

In Service

From new these units worked the hourly fast trains from Victoria to both Brighton and West Worthing, whilst the 6 CITY units were used on rush hour services to and from London Bridge. There were seventeen workings for the 6 PUL units and a further two for the 6 CITY units.

Following the electrification of the lines to Seaford, Eastbourne and Hastings in 1935, units then worked in conjunction with the 6 PAN units provided for this scheme and ran through to Ore. They also ran on from West Worthing to Littlehampton following the electrification of this section in 1938, again often coupled to 6 PAN units.

By January 1935, the 6 CITY units were used as follows:

One unit worked the front portion of the 8.30am West Worthing to London Bridge, then running empty to /from Selhurst depot and formed the rear portion of the 5.4pm London Bridge to Hove, whilst the other unit formed the rear portion of the 8.45am Brighton to London Bridge and berthed at Peckham Rye until working the front portion of the 5.0pm London Bridge to Brighton. Both units berthed at Lovers Walk overnight.

There was also one working on a Saturday, a unit working with a 6 PUL unit on the rear of the 8.45am Brighton to London Bridge, laying-over at Peckham Rye and forming the front part of the 1.5pm London Bridge to Brighton.

In July 1939 there were two diagrams for 6 CITY units, one working the 8.9am Littlehampton to London Bridge (attaching to a 6 PAN at Worthing), then berthing at New Cross Gate until running empty to London Bridge, both units then forming the 5.0pm to Brighton.

The second diagram ran (again coupled to a 6 PAN) on the 8.46am Brighton to London Bridge, thence empty to New Cross Gate where the train was split, the 6 CITY remaining spare all day until running empty to Victoria to work the 10.25pm to Littlehampton.

From time to time one unit would deputise for a 5 BEL set on the Brighton Belle service, and they were used occasionally for Royal specials, usually on the Brighton line but on at least one occasion running from Portsmouth to Windsor, unit no.3019 working this duty on 15th June 1953.

 

Enemy Action

Unit no.3017 and another unit were badly damaged by enemy action whilst undergoing repairs at Peckham Rye Shops on 2nd October 1940 but were repaired.

The Pullmans were removed from the units from 4th May 1942 until 6th May 1946 for wartime storage, though some were back in use towards the end of April 1946. Some were damaged by enemy action whilst in store at Preston Park in May 1943, May, Rita and Ruth all being particularly affected. Other locations known to have been used for storage of these cars were Hassocks and Coulsdon North. They did not all return to their original unit.

The units ran as 5 COR during this period, units nos.3001 ‑ 3020 then seating 60 first, 220 third, weighing 225 tons and being 330' 3" long overall. In five-coach form units nos.3041 and 3042 seated 126 first, 108 third, weighed 219½ tons and were 316' 9" long overall, whilst 3043 seated 126 first, 104 third, weighed 221½ tons and was 316' 9" long.

Unit no.3004 had three coaches damaged by enemy bombing at Lancing works in September 1942 whilst nos.3011, 3015, 3019 and 3041 all suffered lesser damage when Lovers Walk depot at Brighton was hit in May 1943. For a while some units were steam-hauled at night from Brighton for overnight storage in the tunnel at Kemp Town to protect them from enemy bombing.

A further unit was damaged by a flying bomb blast whilst leaving Streatham Hill sidings on 1st July 1944 whilst 6 CITY unit no.3043 was similarly damaged whilst berthed at New Cross Gate on 7th July 1944.

All these damaged units were quickly repaired. When the Pullman cars were restored to the units in 1946, they had red oxide painted roofs initially, though they were later painted silver-grey.

 

Post-War Changes

Following the war, the 6 CITY sets were altered to reduce the amount of first class accommodation. The three TFK cars in each unit were downgraded, one to a TTK and the other two to TCK cars. The TTK now had 56 seats, and the TCK cars each had two third and five first-class compartments and seated 30 first and 16 third. The unit totals were altered to 72 first and 212 third (unit no.3043 seated 208 third), and the units were now classified as 6 PUL. New diagram numbers were issued for the downgraded vehicles (formerly diag.2506) those modified to TTK becoming diag.2016, those to TCK becoming diag.2319. This work was undertaken during overhauls at Lancing works.

 

6 PUL no.3006 on the rear of the 10:08hrs Littlehampton to Victoria at Haywards Heath on Wednesday 18th August 1965.

At the time Harold Wilson was Prime Minister and ‘Help!’ by the Beatles was at the top of the music charts.

© Chris Wilson collection

 

Liveries

All units were painted in standard SR green livery with quite complex lining out with the Pullman cars in the usual chocolate and cream livery of that company, again with lining out in red and gold and carrying the company crest on the coach sides at each end with the vehicle name in the centre. The units received a simpler livery without the ornate lining out during the war years and were painted into the lighter malachite green at this time.

From 1951 overhauled units were turned-out in a slightly darker ‘Southern Region’ green.

When Second Class was abolished on 3rd June 1956 Third Class was renamed Second Class with and the coaches were reclassified at this time so the trailer third (TTK) became a trailer second (TSK) etc.

Units started to receive small yellow warning panels on cab ends just before withdrawal, unit no.3013 being the first in March 1964 with yellow ‘UIC’ cantrail bands denoting the first-class accommodation being applied at this time. All units were withdrawn in green livery.

 

Working in Multiple

The six-car corridor units could run in multiple with each other and the contemporary 5 BEL sets, also the later 6 PAN and 4 COR /RES /BUF units. These units were not fitted with a power jumper on the cab end, but the power jumper of a coupled 4 COR /RES /BUF unit could be coupled to the ‘Shed’ socket adjacent to the control jumper, which was the only high level jumper on these units below the offside cab window.

 

Maintenance

Routine maintenance was carried out at Lovers Walk depot and heavy body overhauls at Lancing works. Programmed bogie changes and electrical equipment overhaul was done at Peckham Rye or occasionally Slade Green Repair Shops, in later years also at Selhurst Repair Shop, where unscheduled repairs were sometimes carried out. Units requiring heavy body repair were dealt with at Eastleigh works.

The Pullman coaches were on a different overhaul cycle and work on these was carried out at Preston Park Pullman Shops, units sometimes running as 5-car with no Pullman whilst their coach was overhauled, and in this form were usually restricted to London to Littlehampton rush-hour services.

 

Demise & Withdrawal

The 6 PUL units continued in use on the Central division express services until January 1964 when five were disbanded and donated their Pullman Cars to the short‑lived 4 PUL units, the remaining coaches going for storage at Micheldever. The replacement 4 CIG and 4 BIG units were later being delivered than planned and this catering reorganisation allowed the withdrawal of five of the 6 PUL units, being indirectly replaced by spare South Eastern ‘Boat Train’ units from the 4 CEP and 4 BEP fleets being diagrammed onto the Mid‑Sussex line services.

Units finally started to be replaced by new 4 CIG and 4 BIG units from March 1965 and the last units to run in their original form were disbanded in April 1966, the final run by a working 6 PUL unit being officially on 24th April 1966 after a L.C.G.B. Railtour, though unit no.3041 actually remained in service for about another month being used on 14.25 Brighton to Victoria and 17.23 return with the Pullman car in use. [British Rail introduced the 24hr clock for public timetables on 14th June 1965 – the Western Region had already changed 15th June 1964].

Unit no.3006 was not disbanded until June 1966 and many coaches saw further service with seven of the Pullman cars being used in the temporary 4 PUL units, whilst other vehicles were used in the ten 6 COR units formed in 1966 and other TSK cars were used in the final ten 4 COR units reformed from disbanded 4 RES, 4 PUL and 4 COR (N) units.

Following withdrawal, disbanded units were stored and split-up as some coaches were re-used almost straight away, and a number of others were stored for possible re-use in push-pull formations on the Oxted line, though this did not take place. Motor coaches not used again were taken to Selhurst or Durnsford Road for electrical stripping, some then returning to their storage locations, whilst others went direct to scrapyards.

 

Original prototype BRCW MBS car number 11001 (with flat slab sides) in 6 PUL unit no.3041 (ex.6 CITY) with at Brighton during the 6 PUL /PAN farewell tour Sunday 24th April 1966.

© Chris Wilson collection


6 PUL Unit Formations

 

Unit

MBT

TTK

TCK

PC

TCK

MBT

Wdn date

Diag. No.

2107

2010

2309

220

2309

2107

 

3001

11043

10017

11783

Anne
Bertha

11784

11044

Apr-66

3002

11004

10002

11754

Rita
Olive

11753

11003

Dec-65

3003

11006
11056

10003

11756

Grace

11755

11005

8-Feb-66

3004

11008

10006

11762

Elinor

11761

11007

4-Feb-64

3005

11010

10008

11766

Ida
Ruth

11765

11009

Apr-66

3006

11012

10011

11772

Rose
Iris

11771

11011

Jun-66

3007

11014

10013

11776

Violet

11775

11013

Oct-65

3008

11045

10019

11788

Lorna

11787

11046

12-Feb-66

3009

11018

10010

11769

Alice

11770

11017

10-Sep-64

3010

11020

10016

11781

Daisy

11782

11019

Nov-65

3011

11022

10018

11785

Naomi
Peggy

11786

11021

4-Dec-65

3012

11024

10020

11789

Bertha
Anne

11790

11023

Sep-65

3013

11025

10001

11752

Brenda

11751

11026

12-Feb-66

3014

11027
11075#1

10004
10044#2

11757

Enid

11758

11028

4-Feb-64

3015

11029

10005

11759

Joyce

11760

11030

4-Dec-65

3016

11031

10007

11764

Iris

11763

11032

27-Mar-65

3017

11033

10009

11768

Ruth
Gwladys

11767

11034

27-Jan-64

3018

11035

10012

11773

May
Ethel

11774

11036

10-Jan-64

3019

11037

10015

11780

Peggy

11779

11038

Oct-65

3020

11039

10014

11777

Clara

11778

11040

10-Jan-64

 

Notes

 

#1

6 PAN MBS, diag. no.2112.

#2

6 PAN TSK.

 


6 CITY Unit Formations

Unit formations of the 6 CITY units are shown twice in their original and post-war downgraded formations (to 6 PUL) with the original number of the downgraded TFK shown in brackets.

 

Original 6 CITY formations

Unit

MBT

TFK

TFK

PC

TFK

MBT

Downgraded #

Diag. No.

2107

2506

2506

220

2506

2107

 

3041

11001+

12254

12255

Gwladys
May

12256

11041

25-Nov-47

3042

11002*

12259

12258

Olive
Ruth

12257

11042

10-May-47

3043

11015

12252

12251

Ethel
Rita

12253

11016

23-Apr-48

 

Downgraded to 6 PUL formations

Unit

MBT

TTK
(ex.TFK)

TCK
(ex.TFK)

PC

TCK
(ex.TFK)

MBT

Wdn date

Diag. No.

2107

2016

2319

220

2319

2107

 

3041

11041

10113
(12254)

11862
(12255)

May
Alice

11863
(12256)

11001+

18-Jun-66

3042

11002*

10114
(12259)

11864
(12258)

Ruth

11865
(12257)

11042

Oct-65

3043

11016

10115
(12253)

11867
(12252)

Rita

11866
(12251)

11015

12-Feb-66

 

Notes

 

#

Date 6 CITY downgraded  unit to 6 PUL released into traffic from Lancing Works

+

56 seat MBS diagram 2108.

*

56 seat MBS diagram 2109

 

 

Individual Unit Notes

6 PUL & 6 CITY

Unit No.

 

3001

Unit commenced service 12-Dec-32. Pullman car Anne to 3012 after wartime storage and replaced by Bertha (ex.3012) May‑46.

Bertha had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

Unit rebogied at Lancing between 8-Aug-47 and 10-Oct-47 as prototype.

Unit disbanded Apr-66 at Lovers Walk and TSK 11784 formed into 4 COR(N) no.3069 and this unit sent to Eastleigh 17-May-66 for C1 overhaul and released as 4 COR no.3167 13-Jul-66. Bertha removed for store. These coaches removed 2/3-Apr-66 and remaining 4-cars temporarily stored at Gatwick. Both replaced by 6 PAN TFK 12260 and TSK 10021 (both ex.3021), these two released from overhaul at Eastleigh 3-May-66 and unit renumbered as 6 COR no.3043.

11043 reformed into 6 COR 3043 from May-66.

10017 reformed into 6 COR 3043 from May-66.

11783 reformed into 6 COR 3043 from May-66.

Bertha moved Lovers Walk to Durnsford Road 5-Apr-66 and withdrawn 9-Apr-66, then stored at Coulsdon North and renumbered into departmental stock as DS70261.

11784 reformed into 4 COR 3167 from May-66.

11044 reformed into 6 COR 3043 from May-66.

Bertha remained at Coulsdon North until 8-Nov-69 when moved to Micheldever until sold for preservation Feb‑73 and moved to Eastleigh 14-Feb-73. Coach at the Ashford Steam Centre by August 1973. It was later moved to Bluebell Railway about 1978 and converted for steam loco operation with vacuum braking and steam heating as Pullman car Bertha once more, entering service in 1990. After a ten-year loan expired coach sold and moved to the Swanage Railway 20-Sep-00, but little used there and moved again to the West Coast Railway Company’s depot at Carnforth.

 

3002

Unit commenced service 11-Oct-32.

Pullman car Rita to 6 CITY no.3043 after wartime storage and replaced by Olive (ex. 6 CITY no.3042). Both vehicles had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43, Rita quite badly.

Unit rebogied Dec‑57 and Olive used temporarily in 6 PUL no.3018 and 6 PAN no.3023 in meantime.

Unit disbanded Nov-65 and to Micheldever for reforming c.Nov‑65 and Pullman Olive and TSK 11753 removed and replaced by 6 PAN TFK 12263 (ex,3024) and TSK 10025 (ex.3023) and reformed unit to Eastleigh 6-Dec-65 for overhaul and released 14-Jan-66 as 6 COR no.3046.

               11004 reformed into 6 COR no.3046 from Jan‑66.

               10002 reformed into 6 COR no.3046 from Jan‑66.

               11754 reformed into 6 COR no.3046 from Jan‑66.

                Olive Withdrawn 4-Dec-65 and stored at Micheldever. To Durnsford Road for stripping Aug‑66 and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 10-Sep-66.

               11753 reformed into 6 COR no.3047 from Jan‑66.

               11003 reformed into 6 COR no.3046 from Jan‑66.

 

3003

Unit commenced service 18-Oct-32. MBT 11006 badly fire damaged at Preston Park and unit to Lancing for repair 21-Dec-48 and to 6 PAN no.3026 Jun‑49 still under repair. Replaced by 6 PAN MBT 11056 (ex.3029) and released 25-May-49.

Pullman car Grace used in 6 PAN no.3021 whilst remainder of unit being overhauled at Lancing between 13-May-52 and 9-Jul-52.

Unit rebogied Feb‑57.

Unit disbanded 8-Feb-66 though out of use in January and sent to Hove then initial store at Balcombe. TSK 11756 removed and taken to Eastleigh 18-Feb-66 for overhaul and formed into 6 COR mo.3048 from Mar‑66. TSK 11755 formed into 4 PUL no.3055 at Lovers Walk 19/20-Mar-66 and this unit then sent to Eastleigh 5-May-66 for C1 overhaul, released as 4 COR no.3162 16-Jun-66. TSK 10003 formed into 4 PUL no.3054 at Lovers Walk and this unit then sent to Eastleigh 31-May-66 for C3 overhaul, released as 4 COR no.3161 5-Jul-66.

               11056 Withdrawn 12-Feb-66 and stripped at Selhurst cMay‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

               10003 reformed into 4 COR(N) no.3055 (for no.3161) from 19/20-Mar-66.

               11755 reformed into 4 PUL no.3055 (for no.3162) from 19/20-Mar-66.

               Grace Withdrawn 12-Feb-66 and stored at Hove then Chichester and sold for scrapping 25-Jun-66 to J. Cashmore Ltd. Newport.

               11756 reformed into 6 COR no.3048 from Mar‑66.

               11005 Withdrawn 12-Feb-66 and stripped at Selhurst cMay‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

 

3004

Unit commenced service 25-Oct-32. MBT 11008 used for tests hauling goods wagons 8-Nov-36 in connection with development of electric locomotives. Coach hauled 30 wagons + 25ton brake (540 tons) from Norwood Yard to Three Bridges assisted in rear at times by K Class locomotive 2352.

Both TCK cars 11761 and 11762 and MBT 11007 badly damaged by enemy action whilst unit at Lancing works, minus Pullman, 30-Sep-42 and repaired there and released 9-Jan-43.

Pullman Elinor used in 6 PAN no.3022 whilst remainder of unit being overhauled at Lancing between 10-Mar-49 and 30-May-49.

Unit rebogied Oct‑58.

Unit disbanded at Lovers Walk 4-Feb-64 with Pullman Elinor removed and remaining 5 coaches to Micheldever. Both TCK cars 11761 and 11762 then used in 6-car ‘3018’ for push-pull tests.

                 11007 stored at Micheldever, stripped at Durnsford Road during September 1964 and returned to Micheldever 28-Sep-64, withdrawn 19-Dec-64 sold to Bird Group, Bynea 20-Mar-65, moving 8-Mar-65,

                 10006 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 304’, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 10-Apr-68, arriving 24-Apr-68, cut-up 1-May-68.

                 11761 formed into 6-car set of vehicles from 3014 /3018 /3033 for ‘push-pull’ tests and based at Farnham, returned to Lovers Walk Sep‑64 until Oct‑64 when moved to Hassocks, later back to Micheldever for ‘Set 308’, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 17-Apr-68, arriving 22-May-68, cut-up 10-Jun-68.

                   Elinor reformed into 4 PUL no.3057 from 4-Feb-64.

           11762 formed into 6-car set of vehicles from nos.3014 /3018 /3033 for ‘push-pull’ tests and based at Farnham, returned to Lovers Walk Sep‑64 until Oct‑64 when moved to Hassocks, later back to Micheldever for ‘Set 308’, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 17-Apr-68, arriving 22-May-68, cut-up 6-Jun-68.

           11008 stored at Micheldever, stripped at Durnsford Road by April 1965 and returned to Micheldever, withdrawn 15-May-65 and sold to Bird Group, Bynea 7-Aug-65, moving 27-Jul-65 from there

 

3005

Unit commenced service 4-Nov-32.

Unit fitted with experimental horns at solebar level during overhaul when released from Lancing 19-Sep-51.

Unit rebogied Mar‑58.

Pullman car Ida ran in 6 PAN no.3031 from 3-Dec-59 until 1-Mar-60 whilst remaining coaches overhauled at Lancing. Due to poor condition, Pullman car Ida exchanged with Ruth (ex. withdrawn no.3042) 19-Aug-65 and unit sent to Eastleigh for overhaul 4-Oct-65 and released 18-Oct-65.

Unit disbanded Apr-66 at Lovers Walk and Pullman Ruth removed for store and TSK 11765 formed into 4 PUL mo.3054 at Lovers Walk 2/3-Apr-66 and this unit then sent to Eastleigh 31-May-66 for C3 overhaul, released as 4 COR no.3161 5-Jul-66. Remaining 4-cars stored temporarily at Gatwick. Both these replaced by 6 PAN TFK 12261 and TSK 10024 (both ex.3022), these two released from overhaul at Eastleigh 3-May-66 and unit renumbered as 6 COR no.3050.

                 11010 reformed into 6 COR no.3050 from May‑66.

                 10008 reformed into 6 COR no.3050 from May‑66.

                 11766 reformed into 6 COR no.3050 from May‑66.

                       Ruth moved Lovers Walk to Durnsford Road 5-Apr-66 and withdrawn 9-Apr-66, then stored at Coulsdon North and renumbered into departmental stock as DS70260.

11765 reformed into 4 COR no.3161 from Jul‑66.

                 11009 reformed into 6 COR no.3050 from May‑66.

Ruth remained at Coulsdon North until 8-Nov-69 when moved to Micheldever until sold for preservation to Bulmers Ltd Feb‑73 and moved to Eastleigh 14-Feb-73. Coach had suffered slight fire damage at Micheldever and moved to Swindon cMay‑73 for overhaul though this was not carried out and coach then sold to 6000 Locomotive Association and moved to Bulmers at Hereford and used as a static HQ. Moved to Rowden Mill, Bredenbury, Herefordshire c.Oct‑96 and then sold to VSOE Ltd. Jun‑98 and moved again to Stewarts Lane for restoration.

 

3006

Unit commenced service 11-Nov-32.

Pullman car Rose damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

Unit rebogied Nov‑57.

Pullman car Rose displaced 27-Mar-65 and withdrawn 22-May-65, sold to P. Woods 23-Oct-65 c/o Slag Reduction, Ickles, moving from Andover in July 1965. Replaced by Iris (ex.3016).

Unit given a late overhaul at Eastleigh between 2-Sep-65 and 14-Sep-65. Unit stored at Balcombe during May 1966 as a serviceable spare.

Unit disbanded Jun-66 at Lovers Walk, Pullman Iris and TSK 11771 removed for store and replaced by 6 PAN TFK 12268 and TSK 10037 (both ex.3029) these two released from overhaul at Eastleigh 3-May-66 and unit renumbered as 6 COR 3042.

                 11012 reformed into 6 COR no.3042 from Jun‑66.

                 10011 reformed into 6 COR no.3042 from Jun‑66.

                 11772 reformed into 6 COR no.3042 from Jun‑66.

                 Iris Withdrawn 22-Jun-66 and sold for scrapping 24-Sep-66 to A. King Ltd. Wymondham, moving from Hove.

                 11771 Withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 20-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 27-Apr-68, moving from Hove. Coach cut-up 6-May-68.

                 11011 reformed into 6 COR no.3042 from Jun‑66.

 

3007

Unit commenced service 18-Nov-32.

Pullman car Violet damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

TCK 11775 damaged (details unknown) and coach to Lancing for repair between 31-May-54 and 24-Jun-54 being temporarily replaced by 4 RES TFK 12244 (ex. damaged unit no.3072), this coach seating 42 first (30 in five compartments and 12 in the dining saloon) and weighing 33 tons, in this form the unit then weighed 264 tons and seated 84 first and 212 second.

Unit rebogied Oct‑57.

Slight fire damage in ‘C’ compartment of TSK 10013 at Victoria 6-Jun-62, repaired at Streatham Hill. Unit last used c.4-Sep-65.

Unit disbanded Oct-65 at Lovers Walk. TSK 11776 reformed into 4 COR(N) no.3071 and this unit to Eastleigh 18-May-66 for C1 overhaul, released 15-Jul-66 as 4 COR no.3168. Remainder of unit to Hassocks for store.

         11014 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66, moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

                 10013 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 9-Apr-68, cut-up 19-Apr-68.

                 11775 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 1-Apr-68, cut-up 8-Apr-68.

                 Violet stored at Brighton, Hove and Hassocks, withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Norwich 18-Jun-66.

                 11776 stored until reformed into 4 COR no.3168 from Jul‑66.

                 11013 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66, moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

 

3008

Unit commenced service 26-Dec-32.

Pullman car Lorna used in 6 PAN 3023 whilst remainder of unit undergoing E2 overhaul at Lancing between 21-Mar-51 and 16-May-51.

Unit rebogied Jan‑58.

Unit disbanded 12-Feb-66 at Lovers Walk. TSK 11787 formed into 4 COR(N) no.3065 12/13-Mar-66 and this unit to Eastleigh 23-Mar-66 for overhaul and renumbering as 4 COR no.3164. TSK 11788 formed into 4 PUL no.3057 19/20-Mar-66 and this unit to Eastleigh 5-May-66 for C1 overhaul, released 27-Jun-66 as 4 COR no.3163.

         11045 Withdrawn 12-Feb-66 and stripped at Selhurst c.May‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

         10019 stored as loose stock, at Hove Aug‑66, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 27-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge from Hassocks? 17-Apr-68, arriving 4-May-68 and cut-up 9-May-68.

         11788 reformed into 4 PUL no.3057 (for 3163) from 19/20-Mar-66.

         Lorna reformed into 4 PUL no.3057 from 16-Feb-66.

         11787 reformed into 4 COR(N) no.3065 (for no.3164) from 12/13-Mar-66.

         11046 Withdrawn 12-Feb-66 and stripped at Selhurst c.May‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

 

3009

Unit commenced service 6-Dec-32.

Unit ran as 5 COR for a short while during 1956 whilst Pullman car Alice under repair.

Unit rebogied Aug‑57.

Unit disbanded 10-Sep-64 following collision with 4 BUF 3074 at Lovers Walk.

                 11018 reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from 13-Oct-64.

                 10010 reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from 13-Oct-64.

                 11769 reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from 13-Oct-64.

                 Alice reformed into 4 PUL no.3059 from 13-Oct-64.

                 11770 stored slightly damaged at Lovers Walk until Oct‑64 then moved to Hassocks, later as loose stock at Micheldever, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 17-Apr-68, arriving 22-May-68, cut-up 31-May-68.

                 11017 withdrawn badly damaged 10-Oct-64, after a bogie change at Lovers Walk 25-Oct-64 sent to Durnsford Road for stripping by 8-Nov-64 and broken-up at Newhaven w/e 2-Jan-65, though motor bogies were recovered.

 

3010

Unit commenced service 8-Dec-32.

MBT 11019 damaged by enemy action (details unknown) and repaired at Lancing between 8-Nov-43 and 1-Dec-43.

Pullman car Daisy rebogied May‑58, remainder of unit Nov‑58.

MBS 11020 derailed departing Victoria 1-Aug-63, repaired at Selhurst.

Unit disbanded Nov-65 and sent to Micheldever. TSK 11782 formed into 6 PAN no.3030 from 1-Nov-65, Pullman Daisy removed for store and both these replaced by 6 PAN coaches TFK 12262 and TSK 10026 (both ex.3023) and reformed unit to Eastleigh 8-Nov-65 for overhaul and released 26-Nov-65 as 6 COR no.3044.

  11020 reformed into 6 COR no.3044 from Mar‑66.

  10016 reformed into 6 COR no.3044 from Mar‑66.

  11781 reformed into 6 COR no.3044 from Mar‑66.

  Daisy stored at Micheldever, withdrawn 4-Dec-65, to Durnsford Road for stripping Aug‑66 and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 10-Sep-66.

  11782 reformed into 6 COR no.3045 from Nov‑65.

  11019 reformed into 6 COR no.3044 from Mar‑66.

 

3011

Unit commenced service 20-Dec-32.

Unit damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43 and repaired at the depot by 6-Jun-43. Pullman car Naomi used in 6 PAN no.3023 whilst remainder of unit undergoing overhaul at Lancing between 3-Mar-52 and 6-May-52.

Unit rebogied May‑58.

Due to poor condition Pullman car Naomi exchanged with Peggy (ex. withdrawn no.3019) 19-Aug-65 for a few weeks prior to unit being disbanded.

Unit disbanded Dec-65 Last used c.4-Dec-65. Pullman Peggy removed and remaining five coaches to Eastleigh arriving 2-Feb-66. Both MBSs 11021 & 11022 overhauled and released 25-Mar-66 as part of 6 COR 3048. After some stripping, trailers 10018, 11785 & 11786 all sent for store at Micheldever. Peggy moved to Ford for initial storage.

11022 reformed into 6 COR 3048 from Jun‑66

10018 stored as loose stock at Micheldever, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 10-Apr-68, arriving 6-Jun-68, cut-up 14-Jun-68.

11785 stored as loose stock at Micheldever, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 10-Apr-68, arriving 6-Jun-68, cut-up 15-Jun-68.

Peggy Withdrawn 4-Dec-65 and stored at Ford, stripped at Durnsford Road and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 10-Sep-66.

11786 stored as loose stock at Micheldever, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 17-Apr-68, arriving 22-May-68, cut-up 31-May-68.

11021 reformed into 6 COR unit no.3048 from Jun‑66.

 

3012

Unit commenced service 28-Dec-32.

Pullman car Bertha to unit no.3001 after wartime storage and replaced by Anne (ex.3001) May‑46. Bertha had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

Unit briefly ran as 6 PAN c.Jun‑57 with 12503 (ex.3023) with displaced Pullman car Anne running in 3017 at this time.

Unit was rebogied Sep‑57.

Unit to Lancing for damage repairs (details unknown) between 17-Jul-58 and 8-Aug-58.

Unit disbanded Sep-65 last used c4-Sep-65.

                   11024 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66, moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

                   10020 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 1-Apr-68, cut-up 10-Apr-68.

                   11789 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and moved for scrapping to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 1-Apr-68, cut-up 5-Apr-68.

                   Anne stored at Hassocks, withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Norwich 18-Jun-66.

                   11790 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and moved for scrapping to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge 6-Apr-68, cut-up 18-Apr-68.

                   11023 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66, moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

 

3013

Unit commenced service 10-Oct-32.

Pullman car Brenda damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

Pullman car Brenda was fitted with prototype BR standard bogies at Lancing during overhaul between 4-May-51 and 27-Jun-51 and ran trials temporarily formed into unit no.3041, it was rebogied again at Lancing and released 1-Nov-56 and used for tests in 4 RES no.3072, the remainder of the unit being rebogied May‑57.

Unit disbanded 12-Feb-66 at Lovers Walk. TSK 11751 formed into 4 COR(N) no.3067 12/13-Mar-66 and unit to Eastleigh 22-Mar-66 for C3 overhaul and released as 4 COR no.3166 11-May-66. TSK 11752 formed into 4 COR(N) no.3066 12/13-Mar-66 and unit to Eastleigh 6-May-66 for C1 for overhaul and released as 4 COR no.3165 15-Jun-66.

11025 withdrawn 25-Feb-66 and stripped at Selhurst c.5‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr Jul‑66.

10001 stored as loose stock, at Hove Aug‑66, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 27-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 4-May-68 and cut-up 16-May-68.

11752 reformed into 4 COR(N) no.3066 (for unit no.3165) from 12/13-Mar-66.

Brenda Withdrawn 25-Feb-66 stored at Hove then Chichester and sold for scrapping 25-Jun-66 to J. Cashmore Ltd. Newport.

11751 reformed into 4 COR(N) no.3067 (for unit no.3166) from 12/13-Mar-66.

11026 Withdrawn 25-Feb-66 and stripped at Selhurst c.May‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

 

3014

Unit commenced service 14-Oct-32.

Unit involved in London Bridge collision 23-Jan-48 but repaired at Lancing without reformation between 15-Apr-48 and 20-Jul-48.

Unit completely derailed at Windmill Bridge Junction 13-Feb-54 but not seriously damaged.

Unit rebogied Apr‑57.

Unit involved in Eastbourne collision 25-Aug-58 and MBS 11027 and TSK 10004 wrecked and withdrawn 20-Sep-58, cut-up at Eastbourne on that date. Pullman car Enid used in no.3042 during Dec‑58. Unit out of use until reformed 29-Nov-58 temporarily with all four trailers of no.3015 with ‘own’ MBS 11028 and 6 PAN MBS 11075 (ex.3032).

Further reformed 13-Mar-59 and all four trailers returned to no.3015 and replaced by ‘own’ trailers 11757, 11758 and Enid and 6 PAN TSK 10044 (ex.3032). Repaired coaches at Lancing released 26-Mar-59.

TCK 11758 had been mounted onto underframe of 6 PAN TSK 10043 during repairs at Lancing and the original underframe later cut-up at Eastleigh w/e 11-Feb-61. Both MBS 11075 and TSK 10044 officially in no.3014 from 10-Oct-58 though in works for repair.

Unit disbanded at Lovers Walk 4-Feb-64 Pullman Enid and TSK 10044 removed, remaining 4 coaches sent to Micheldever. Both TCK cars 11757 and 11758 then used in 6-car ‘3018’ for push-pull tests.

11075 stored at Micheldever, stripped at Durnsford Road during September 1964 and returned to Micheldever 28-Sep-64, withdrawn 19-Dec-64 and sold for scrap to Bird Group, Bynea 20-Mar-65, moving 8-Mar-65.

10044 reformed into 4 COR(N) no.3071 from 4-Feb-64.

11757 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 307’ then formed into 6-car set of vehicles from nos.3004 /3018 /3033 for ‘push-pull’ tests and based at Farnham, returned to Lovers Walk Sep‑64 and reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from 13-Oct-64.

Enid reformed into 4 PUL no.3059 from 4-Feb-64.

11758 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 307’ then formed into 6-car set of vehicles from nos.3004 /3018 /3033 for ‘push-pull’ tests and based at Farnham, returned to Lovers Walk Sep‑64 and reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from 13-Oct-64.

11028 stored at Micheldever, stripped at Durnsford Road by April 1965 and returned to Micheldever, withdrawn 15-May-65 and sold to Bird Group, Bynea 7-Aug-65, moving 27-Jul-65 from there.

 

3015

Unit commenced service 21-Oct-32.

Unit painted in a bright emerald green livery at Lancing between 14-Jan-36 and 25-Jan-36 (record card describes this as ‘Malachite Green’) which it retained until 14-Dec-50.

Pullman car Joyce damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43 and other five coaches of unit also damaged in the same incident, repaired at the depot by 9-Jun-43.

Unit rebogied Jun‑58.

MBS 11029 damaged (details unknown) about October 1958 and unit out of use. MBS 11030 temporarily exchanged with damaged 11033 (ex.3017) from 30-Oct-58 until 29-Nov-58, and all four trailers used temporarily as part of unit no.3014 from 29-Nov-58 until 13-Mar-59 when unit back to use in original formation.

Unit disbanded 4-Dec-65 and reformed at Durnsford Road 5-Jan-66 and Pullman Joyce and TSK 11760 removed for stripping and replaced by 6 PAN TFK 12265 and TSK 10032 (both ex.3026) and unit to Eastleigh 8-Jan-66 for overhaul, released 18-Feb-66 as 6 COR no.3049.

                 11029 reformed into 6 COR no.3049 from Feb‑66.

                 10005 reformed into 6 COR no.3049 from Feb‑66.

                 11759 reformed into 6 COR no.3049 from Feb‑66.

                 Joyce Withdrawn 4-Dec-65 and moved to Durnsford Road for stripping 5-Jan-66 then stored at Andover and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Norwich 18-Jun-66.

                 11760 moved to Durnsford Road for stripping 5-Jan-66 then stored at Andover Mar‑66, withdrawn 21-Oct-67, sold for scrapping 22-Mar-68, to Basingstoke 29-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge 17-Apr-68, arriving 13-May-68, cut-up 21-May-68.

                 11030 reformed into 6 COR no.3049 from Feb‑66.

 

3016

Unit commenced service 28-Oct-32.

Unit (also 6 PAN no.3034) fitted with experimental EP brakes during overhaul at Lancing between 22-Aug-47 and 13-Oct-47, this equipment then removed about June 1949 for further use in the 4 DD units being built. Whilst under conversion, Pullman Iris spare and displayed as part of Lancing works flower show 7-Sep-47.

Unit rebogied May‑58.

Unit disbanded 27-Mar-65 moth MBS cars stripped at Durnsford Road by May and hauled to Micheldever c.18-May-65. All trailers (including Pullman Rose ex.3006) to Hassocks.

11031 stored at Micheldever, withdrawn 15-May-65 and sold to Bird Group, Bynea 7-Aug-65, moving 27-Jul-65.

10007 reformed into 4 COR 3160 at Eastleigh from Aug‑65.

11764 reformed into 4 COR 3160 at Eastleigh from Aug‑65.

Iris reformed into 6 PUL 3006 from 27-Mar-65.

11763 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 13-Apr-68, cut-up 26-Apr-68.

11032 stored at Micheldever, withdrawn 15-May-65 and to Bird Group, Bynea 7-Aug-65, moving 27-Jul-65.

Trailers 10007 and 11764 moved from Hassocks to Lovers Walk in July 1965 and formed between MBSs 11149 (ex.3059) and 11153 (ex.3056) then sent to Eastleigh for overhaul arriving 23-Aug-65 where unit renumbered no.3160.

 

3017

Unit commenced service 8-Nov-32.

Unit damaged by enemy action at Peckham Rye Shops 2-Oct-40, repaired at Lancing between 7-Oct-40 and 23-Nov-40. Pullman car Ruth to 6 CITY no.3042 after wartime storage and repairs and replaced by Gwladys (ex. 6 CITY no.3041), this vehicle had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43. Pullman car Gwladys temporarily out of use mid-1957 and replaced by Anne (ex.3012).

Unit rebogied Jul‑58.

MBS 11033 damaged about October 1958 (details unknown) and temporarily exchanged with 11030 (ex.3015) from 30-Oct-58 until 29-Nov-58. Pullman car Gwladys temporarily back to no.3041 Mar‑60.

Unit disbanded at Lovers Walk 27-Jan-64 Pullman Gwladys removed and remaining 5 coaches to Micheldever. Later 11034 sent to Durnsford Road (paired with 11060 ex.3033) Jun‑64 for further use as shown below.

           11033 stored at Micheldever, stripped at Durnsford Road during September 1964 and returned to Micheldever 28-Sep-64, withdrawn 19-Dec-64 and sold for scrap to Bird Group, Bynea 20-Mar-65, moving 8-Mar-65.

                   10009 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 302’ until reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from Apr‑64.

                   11768 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 302’ until reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from Apr‑64.

                   Gwladys reformed into 4 PUL no.3055 from Jan‑64.

           11767 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 302’ but not used, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 10-Apr-68, arriving 24-Apr-68, cut-up 27-Apr-68.

           11034 stored at Micheldever for ‘Set 306’ until reformed temporarily into 4 COR no.3124 from 9-Jul-64 until 15-Jul-65 then stripped at Durnsford Road, withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and moved to Andover for store 14-Dec-65, after stripping sold to A. King Ltd. Norwich 14-May-66, moving from Clapham Yard 5‑66.

 

3018

Unit commenced service 15-Nov-32.

Pullman car May to 6 CITY no.3041 after wartime storage and replaced by Ethel (ex 6 CITY no.3043). Both vehicles had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43, May quite badly.

Unit rebogied Mar‑57 and Pullman car Ethel temporarily to 6 PAN no.3023 at this time, being replaced for a while by Olive (ex.3002).

Unit disbanded at Lovers Walk 10-Jan-64 Pullman Ethel removed and remaining 5 coaches to Micheldever, then both MBSs formed around TCKs 11758 + 11759 (ex.3014) also 11761 + 11762 (ex.3004) and to Stewarts Lane for use in push-pull tests with E5000 class electric locomotives; this ‘unit’ later sent to Durnsford Road Jun‑64 where MBS 11036 removed for use in 4 COR no.3148 and replaced by 11060 (ex 3033) for further use as shown below.

Test unit ‘3018’ now formed as follows: 11060+11762+11761+11758+11757+11035, this unit then to Lovers Walk Sep‑64 where 11758+11757+11035 removed and put back into traffic formed in 6 COR no.3027. Other three coaches 11060+11761+11762 sent to Hassocks, then returned to Micheldever for further store.

                 11035 stored at Micheldever 14-Jan-64 for ‘Set 307’ then formed into 6-car set of vehicles from 3004/14/33 for ‘push-pull’ tests and based at Farnham, returned to Lovers Walk Sep‑64 and reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from 13-Oct-64.

                 10012 stored at Micheldever 14-Jan-64 for ‘Set 304’ but not used, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 10-Apr-68 arriving 24-Apr-68, cut-up 4-May-68.

                 11773 stored at Micheldever 14-Jan-64 for ‘Set 305’ until reformed into 4 COR no.3159 at Eastleigh from 19-Aug-65.

                 Ethel reformed into 4‑PUL no.3056 from 28-Jan-64.

           11774 stored at Micheldever 14-Jan-64 for ‘Set 306’ but not used, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge 10-Apr-68 arriving 24-Apr-68, cut-up 29-Apr-68.

           11036 stored at Micheldever 14-Jan-64 for ‘Set 308’ until temporarily reformed into 4 COR 3148 from 9-Jul-64 until 15-Jul-65 then stripped at Durnsford Road, withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and moved to Andover for store 14-Dec-65, after stripping sold to A. King Ltd. Norwich 14-May-66, moving from Clapham Yard 5‑66.

MBS 11036 used in 4 COR no.3148 from 15-Jul-64 (see also unit no.3017). Units nos.3148 & 3124 then ran as a fixed eight car formation with the two PUL motor coaches at the outer ends on the SWD until 15-Jul-65 when the two PUL vehicles sent to Selhurst c.24-Jul-65 and withdrawn 30-Oct-65. Both nos.3124 & 3148 then reverted to their original formations.

 

3019

Unit commenced service 28-Nov-32.

Unit damaged (details unknown) early March 1940, at Brighton for repairs from 5-Mar-40 then transferred to Lancing 18-Apr-40 until released 3-May-40.

Unit slightly damaged by enemy action at Peckham Rye Shops 2-Oct-40, repaired at Selhurst between 7-Oct-40 and 10-Oct-40.

MBS 11037 damaged early 1945 (details unknown) and repaired at Lancing between 6-Jan-45 and 16-Feb-45.

Unit rebogied Apr‑58.

MBS 11038 and TCK 11779 slight damaged when unit derailed shunting at Ore 27-Jan-64 but repaired.

Pullman car Peggy exchanged with Naomi (ex.3011) 19-Aug-65 just prior to unit being disbanded.

Unit disbanded Oct-65 last used c.4-Sep-65 and initially stored complete at Lancing then Hassocks.

11037 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66, moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

10015 stored at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 9-Apr-68, cut-up 17-Apr-68.

11780 stored at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 1-Apr-68, cut-up 10-Apr-68.

Naomi stored at Hassocks, withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Norwich 18-Jun-66.

11779 stored at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving that day, arriving 1-Apr-68, cut-up 8-Apr-68.

11038 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66, moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

 

3020

Unit commenced service 25-Nov-32.

Unit rebogied Jun‑57.

Unit disbanded at Lovers Walk 10-Jan-64 by removal of Pullman Clara and remaining 5-cars of unit sent to Micheldever 12-Jan-64 where 11778 damaged in derailment on arrival.

                 11039 stored at Micheldever 12-Jan-64 for ’Set 305’ but not used, stripped at Durnsford Road by May 1965 and returned to Micheldever, withdrawn 15-May-65 and sold to Bird Group, Bynea 7-Aug-65, moving 27-Jul-65 but detached at Basingstoke due to hot axlebox. Forward from Basingstoke 23-Oct-65.

                 10014 stored at Micheldever 12-Jan-64 for ‘Set 301’ until reformed into 6 COR no.3027 from Apr‑64.

                 11777 stored at Micheldever 12-Jan-64 for ’Set 304’ but not used, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 10-Apr-68, arriving 24-Apr-68, cut-up 1-May-68.

                 Clara reformed into 4 PUL no.3054 from 17-Jan-64.

                 11778 stored at Micheldever 12-Jan-64 but damaged in derailment on arrival, withdrawn 25-Jan-64 and broken-up at Newhaven w/e 5-Sep-64 after a bogie swap at Micheldever.

                 11040 stored at Micheldever 12-Jan-64, stripped at Durnsford Road during September 1964 and returned to Micheldever 28-Sep-64, withdrawn 19-Dec-64 and sold for scrap to Bird Group, Bynea 20-Mar-65, moving 8-Mar-65.

 

 

Former 6 CITY Units

3041

Unit commenced service 14-Dec-32.

Pullman car Gwladys to 6 PUL no.3017 after wartime storage and replaced by May (ex. 6 PUL no.3018). Both vehicles had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43. Remaining five coaches of unit also damaged in same incident at Brighton, repaired in depot by 12-Jun-43. Unit ran as 6-car pending return of Pullman utilising TTK 10073 from c.May‑46 to c.Oct‑46, this vehicle newly built to replace war losses and to 4 COR no.3119.

TFK cars 12254, 12255 and 12256 downgraded at Lancing from 29-Nov-47. 12254 converted to a 56 seat TTK and renumbered 10113. 12255 and 12256 both converted to TCK cars seating 30 first and 16 third and renumbered 11862 and 11863 respectively. Unit now seated 72 first and 212 third and reclassified as 6 PUL.

Pullman car May temporarily replaced by Brenda (ex.3013) in July 1951, this coach being fitted with prototype BR standard bogies and the unit used (steam hauled by 32422) between Lancing and Chichester 20-Jun-51 on tests.

MBT 11041 damaged about April 1955 (details unknown) and unit to Lancing for repairs between 27-Apr-55 and 20-May-55.

Unit to Lancing 11-Dec-56 for A4 repair to MBS 11001 only, other five coaches out berthed to Ford 24-Jan-57 until 11001 completed and whole unit released 26-Feb-57.

Unit rebogied Feb‑58.

Unit ran briefly in Mar‑60 with original Pullman car Gwladys replacing May. Pullman car May replaced by Alice (ex 4 PUL no.3059) at Lovers Walk 20-Jul-65 due to poor condition and withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and stored at Hassocks until sold for scrapping to A. King, Norwich 18-Jun-66.

Unit given a late overhaul at Eastleigh between 28-Jul-65 and 13-Aug-65 and a brief damage repair at Selhurst between 17-Sep-65 and 24-Sep-65 so was the last 6 PUL in traffic in original form, being used for a railtour on 24-Apr-66 thence retained for a further month working the 14.25 Brighton to Victoria and 17.23 return with the Pullman car in use, this owing to the late delivery of the final two 4 BIG units nos.7047 & 7048.

Unit disbanded 18-Jun-66 at Lovers Walk and Pullman Alice and TSK 11863 removed for store. Both replaced by 6 PAN TFK 12273 and TSK 10048 (ex.3034) these two released from overhaul at Eastleigh 3-May-66 and unit reclassified as 6 COR.

                 11041 reformed into 6 COR no.3041 from Jun‑66.

                 10113 reformed into 6 COR no.3041 from Jun‑66.

                 11862 reformed into 6 COR no.3041 from Jun‑66.

                 Alice withdrawn 22-Jun-66 and stored at Hove sold for scrapping 24-Sep-66 to A. King Ltd. Wymondham, moving from Hove.

                 11863 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 27-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 4-May-68, moving from Andover. Coach cut-up 11-May-68.

                 11001 reformed into 6 COR no.3041 from Jun‑66.

 

3042

Unit commenced service 27-Dec-32.

Pullman car Olive to 6 PUL no.3002 after wartime storage and replaced by Ruth (ex. 6 PUL 3017). Ruth was damaged at Peckham Rye 2-Oct-40, whilst Olive had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

TFK cars 12257, 12258 and 12259 downgraded at Lancing from 10-May-47. 12259 converted to a 56 seat TSK and renumbered 10114. 12257 and 12258 both converted to TCK seating 30 first and 16 third and renumbered 11865 and 11864 respectively. Unit now seated 72 first and 212 third and reclassified as 6 PUL.

Unit rebogied Jul‑57.

Pullman car Ruth temporarily replaced by Enid (ex. damaged no.3014) Dec‑58.

Pullman car Ruth exchanged with Ida (ex.3005) 19-Aug-65 just prior to unit being disbanded.

               Unit disbanded Oct-65 last used c.4-Sep-65 and initially stored at Lancing then Hassocks.

                 11002 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66 moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

                 10114 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 30-Mar-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 13-Apr-68, cut-up 29-Apr-68.

                 11864 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 6-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge moving 30-Mar-68 and arriving 1-Apr-68, cut-up 5-Apr-68.

                 Ida stored at Hassocks, withdrawn 30-Oct-65 and sold for scrapping to A. King Ltd. Norwich 18-Jun-66.

                 11865 stored as loose stock at Hassocks, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and moved for scrapping to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 9-Apr-68, cut-up 19-Apr-68.

                 11042 stored at Hassocks and withdrawn 30-Oct-65, stripped at Durnsford Road from 16-Mar-66, sold to A. King Ltd. Wymondham 19-Apr-66 moving from Clapham Yard 21-Apr-66.

 

3043

Unit commenced service 29-Nov-32.

Unit slightly damaged by V1 blast whilst berthed at New Cross Gate 7-Jul-44 but repaired at Lancing between 13-Jul-44 and 18-Jul-44.

Pullman car Ethel to 6 PUL no.3018 after wartime storage and replaced by Rita (ex/ 6 PUL no.3002). Both vehicles had been damaged by enemy action at Brighton 25-May-43.

Unit ran as 6-car pending return of Pullman utilising TCK 11859 from c.May‑46 to c.Oct‑46, this vehicle newly built to replace war losses and to 4 COR no.3119.

TFK cars 12251, 12252 and 12253 downgraded at Lancing from 23-Apr-48. 12253 converted to a 56 seat TTK and renumbered 10115. 12251 and 12252 both converted to TCK seating 30 first and 16 third and renumbered 11866 and 11867 respectively. TCK 11866 used as part of a train of various types of vehicle displaying new styles of BR signage at Waterloo c.Apr‑48 following downgrading. Unit now seated 72 first and 208 third and reclassified 6 PUL.

Unit rebogied Aug‑58.

Unit disbanded 12-Feb-66 and sent to Hove.

                 11016 Withdrawn 12-Feb-66, stripped at Selhurst c5‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

                 10115 stored, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 27-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 4-May-68, from Andover. Coach cut-up 16-May-68.

                 11866 stored, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 27-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 4-May-68, from Andover. Coach cut-up 18-May-68.

                 Rita Withdrawn 12-Feb-66 and stored at Hove then Chichester and sold for scrapping 25-Jun-66 to J. Cashmore Ltd. Newport.

                 11867 stored, withdrawn 21-Oct-67 and sold for scrapping 27-Apr-68 to Armytage Ltd. Sheepbridge arriving 4-May-68, from Andover. Coach cut-up 18-May-68.

                 11015 Withdrawn 12-Feb-66, stripped at Selhurst c.May‑66 and sold for scrapping 2-Jun-66 to Bird Group, Bynea moving from Norwood yard arr. Jul‑66.

 

              


Proposed Push-Pull Sets

During early 1964 plans were drawn-up to utilise some recently withdrawn PUL & PAN coaches, suitably modified and formed into 3-car ‘half sets’ which would run in pairs as six coach trains on the ‘Oxted’ line services in push-pull configuration with modified BRCW type 3 diesel locomotives.

The Oxted lines had recently had nineteen new 3-car DEMU units put into service but there were insufficient of these to cover all the peak-hour trains and some steam loco operated services remained. At this stage there were also no suitable electrically heated loco-hauled carriages available so the option of using withdrawn EMU stock as a stop-gap measure was seen as a quick temporary solution to speed-up the elimination of remaining steam worked trains, and would also provide a possible contingency resource in the event of delays in providing new stock for the Bournemouth line electrification, which also entailed the provision of a large number of electrically heated stock converted from existing Mark 1 coaches at York.

Plans were far enough advanced for the allocation of vehicles to sets to be worked-out, in a few cases requiring the re-trim of some TCK coaches which would be used as TSK vehicles in these sets. Former MBS coaches would be de-motored and now classified as trailer second brake (TSB), and presumably modified with ETH (electric train heating) receptacles low down on the cab ends to allow the supply of heating current from the locomotive hauling or propelling the train. Seating totals are shown, with half sets 301 + 302 together, 303 + 304 together, similarly 305 + 306 and 307 + 308, again presumably the sets would be semi-permanently coupled. Seating capacity of the four trains thus formed varied slightly and sets nos.305 - 308 all included a 64 seat TSK which was a former TCK downgraded to all second and retrimmed with the first class compartments now regarded as seating four-aside (8 seats).

Coaches earmarked for use in this project were all taken from the 6 PUL and 6 PAN units withdrawn at Lovers Walk in January 1964 and moved to Micheldever for storage. Overhaul and modification work on them for conversion would have probably been done at nearby Eastleigh works had the project continued, but no work was actually done and some coaches were then used for other projects, several going into 6 COR units and two of the MBSs onto a temporary 8-car formation of two 4 COR units with the ex 6 PUL MBS marshalled on the outer ends. Of those not used, they remained in store at Micheldever until the MBS coaches were taken to Wimbledon /Selhurst for electrical stripping prior to disposal during 1965, whilst the trailer cars were all condemned on 21st October 1967 and sent for scrapping, mostly to Armytage at Sheepbridge, though two were dealt with on the SR and their underframes re-used for crane runner wagons.

Proposed formations of these sets were as follows:

 

Set No.

Coach

Ex.unit

Type

Seats

Total Seats


301

11069
12266
10014

3027
3027
3020

TSB
TFK
TSK

-
42F
-

52S
-
68S


42F


120S


302

10009
11768
11068

3017
3017
3027

TSK
TFK
TSB

-
30F
-

68S
24S
52S


30F


144S

 

 

 

 

Train

total

72F

264S

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


303

11060
12272
10012

3033
3033
3018

TSB
TFK
TSK

-
42F
-

52S
-
68S


42F


120S


304

10006
11777
11059

3004
3020
3033

TSK
TCK
TSB

-
30F
-

68S
24S
52S


30F


144S

 

 

 

 

Train

total

72F

264S

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


305

11039
12270
11773

3020
3031
3018

TSB
TFK
TCK

-
42F
*

52S
-
64S


42F


116S


306

11774
11767
11034

3018
3017
3017

TCK
TCK
TSB

*
30F
-

64S
24S
52S


30F


140S

 

 

 

 

Train

total

72F

256S

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


307

11035
11757
11758

3018
3014
3014

TSB
TCK
TCK

-
30F
*

52S
24S
64S


30F


140S


308

11761
11762
11036

3004
3004
3018

TCK
TCK
TSB

*
30F
-

64S
24S
52S


30F


140S

 

 

 

 

Train

total

60F

280S

 

Notes

 

*

Coach reclassified from TCK (30F/24S) to TSK (64S) with downgraded compartments retrimmed and altered to seat four-aside.

 

 

Thanks go to author John Atkinson with editorial and contributions from C. Watts

 

 

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