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Passenger Carrying Coaches

SR Corridor Stock
Bulleid Sets 830 to 849

 

New in Crimson Lake & Cream (CLC) livery carrying its number on the

left-hand end without ‘S’ suffix, CK S5857 is stencilled ready for set 839

© British Railways (Mike King collection)

 

‘L’ sets 830 to 849

Introduced for the Summer 1950 timetable, the first eight sets (830 to 837) of these Bulleid stock to enter traffic were with 3 Cor (three-coach Corridor) but were later strengthened to five coaches using ‘Loose’ TK coaches 114 to 121 & 123 to 130. The remaining twelve sets (838 to 849) entered service as 5 Cor from new.

These ‘L’ sets (830 to 849) were built at Eastleigh Works to H.O order 3454. The BTK coaches were to Diag.2123, the CK to Diag.2318 and the TK to Diag.2017; these coaches having 15” sliding vents.

Coaches were constructed in reverse order in readiness for formation into sets:

Feb-50

BTK

4010-4006

Mar-50

BTK
CK

4005-4001
5867-5858

Apr-50

BTK

4000-3982

May-50

BTK
CK

3981-3974
5857-5848

Jul-50

BTK

3973-3971

 

Corridor Thirds

When 3 Cor sets were strengthened with Loose Corridor Third coaches (H.O. Orde 3580) these were supposed to be placed either side of the Corridor Composite. However, there were times when a pair of  Corridor Third coaches were inserted together on one side of the Corridor Composite.

Jul-50

TK

81-90

Aug-50

TK

91-94

Sep-50

TK

95-111

Oct-50

TK

112-130

 

Sets 830 to 833

Into service new as 3 Cor sets in Crimson Lake & Cream thence BR(S) Green livery from 1956-on. As 3 Cor sets, these were strengthened to five coaches during the summer seasons. The strengthening should normally have been BTK - TK - CK -TK - BTK but sets occasional appeared formed BTK - CK -TK - TK - BTK.

These Sets were later augmented in November 1959 to 5 Cor with the addition of two Green-liveried SK coaches.

Sets 833 to 837

Into service new as 3 Cor sets in Crimson Lake & Cream livery. As 3 Cor sets, these were strengthened to five coaches during the summer seasons. The strengthening should normally have been BTK - TK - CK -TK - BTK but sets occasional appeared formed BTK - CK -TK - TK - BTK.

Augmented in January 1953 to 5 Cor with the addition of two Crimson Lake & Cream liveried TK coaches.

Sets received BR(S) Green livery from 1956-on.

Sets 838 to 849

Into service new as 5 Cor sets in Crimson Lake & Cream livery.

Sets received BR(S) Green livery from 1956-on.

Abolition of Second-class & Set Working

On Sunday, 3rd June 1956 British Railways abolished Second-class travel and immediately renamed Third-class to Second-class. Any remaining Third-class ‘3’ on pre-nationalisation liveried coach doors were removed; usually at the next varnish (A2 exam).

Set working discontinued from 13th June 1966.

 

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BSK 4001 of set 845 in the sidings at Ilfracombe on Tuesday, 28th August 1961

Note the adjacent 3 Cor Bulleid ‘Multidoor’ set

© A.E. West (Mike King collection)

 

Formation of Sets

 

‘L’ Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK No.
(Semi-open)

TK
No.

CK
No.

TK
No.

BTK No.
(Semi-open)

Diag. no.

 

2123

2017

2318

2017

2123

830

2-Jul-50
(3 Cor)

3971
(New)

-

5848
(New)

-

3972
(New)

Augmented

Nov-59
(5 Cor)

"

114
(ex.Loose)

"

115
(ex.Loose)

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

831

10-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3973
(New)

-

5849
(New)

-

3974
(New)

Augmented

Nov-59
(5 Cor)

"

116
(ex.Loose)

"

117
(ex.Loose)

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

832

12-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3975
(New)

-

5850
(New)

-

3976
(New)

Augmented

Nov-59
(5 Cor)

"

118
(ex.Loose)

"

119
(ex.Loose)

"

Reformed

5-Sep-64
(4 Cor)

"

"

"

(119 wdn)

"

Reformed

Feb-65
(5 Cor)

"

"

"

82
(ex.Loose)

"

Reformed

Sep-65
(4 Cor)

"

(118 wdn)

"

"

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

833

14-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3977
(New)

-

5851
(New)

-

3978
(New)

Augmented

Nov-59
(5 Cor)

"

120
(ex.Loose)

"

121
(ex.Loose)

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

834

10-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3979
(New)

-

5852
(New)

-

3980
(New)

Augmented

Jan-53
(5 Cor)

"

123
(ex.Loose)

"

124
(ex.Loose)

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

835

10-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3981
(New)

-

5853
(New)

-

3982
(New)

Augmented

Jan-53
(5 Cor)

"

125
(ex.Loose)

"

126
(ex.Loose)

"

Disb.

Sep-65?

 

 

 

 

 

836

10-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3983
(New)

-

5854
(New)

-

3984
(New)

Augmented

Jan-53
(5 Cor)

"

127
(ex.Loose)

"

128
(ex.Loose)

"

Reformed

Jun-64
(5 Cor)

"

"

"

81
(ex.Loose)

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

837

10-Jun-50
(3 Cor)

3985
(New)

-

5855
(New)

-

3985
(New)

Augmented

Jan-53
(5 Cor)

"

129
(ex.Loose)

"

130
(ex.Loose)

"

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

838

30-May-50
(5 Cor)

3987
(New)

57
(New)

5856
(New)

58
(New)

3988
(New)

Reformed

27-Feb-65
(4 Cor)

"

"

(5856 wdn)

"

"

Reformed

Jun-65
(5 Cor)

"

"

5807‡1
(ex.Loose)

"

"

Disb.

1964?

 

 

 

 

 

839

30-May-50
(5 Cor)

3989
(New)

59
(New)

5857
(New)

60
(New)

3990
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

840

30-May-50
(5 Cor)

3991
(New)

61
(New)

5858
(New)

62
(New)

3992
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

841

30-May-50
(5 Cor)

3993
(New)

63
(New)

5859
(New)

64
(New)

3994
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

842

28-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

3995
(New)

65
(New)

5860
(New)

66
(New)

3996
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

843

28-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

3997
(New)

67
(New)

5861
(New)

68
(New)

3998
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

844

28-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

3999
(New)

69
(New)

5862
(New)

70
(New)

4000
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

845

28-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

4001
(New)

71
(New)

5863
(New)

72
(New)

4002
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

846

28-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

4003
(New)

73
(New)

5864
(New)

74
(New)

4004
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

847

28-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

4005
(New)

75
(New)

5865
(New)

76
(New)

4006
(New)

Disb.

Sep-65?

 

 

 

 

 

848

17-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

4007
(New)

77
(New)

5866
(New)

78
(New)

4008
(New)

Disc.

13-Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

849

17-Apr-50
(5 Cor)

4009
(New)

79
(New)

5867
(New)

80
(New)

4010
(New)

Disb.

1966?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notes

 

 

 

‡1

CK 5807 outshopped Eastleigh 29-Sep-48 in Malachite with 10¼” sliding vents. Outshopped BR(S) Green 2-Jan-57 from Malachite. In set 442 thence to 428 (Dec-60) into set 838 Jun-65.

Disc.

Set working discontinued from 13th June 1966

Disb.

Disbanded

Wdn.

Withdrawn

 

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Individual Set Notes

Set

Notes

830

Set 830 (now in Green livery) augmented with Green-liveried SK 114 & 115 between Sep-58 & May-59.

BSK 3971 underwent damage repairs at Lancing outshopped 11-Dec-64.

831

Set 831 (now in Green livery) augmented with Green-liveried SK 116 & 117 between Sep-58 & May-59.

832

Set 832 (Green livery) augmented with Green-liveried SK 118 & 119 Nov-59.

SK119 removed & withdrawn 5-Sep-64 and replaced by SK 82 Feb-65.

SK118 shewn as withdrawn Sep-65.

833

Set 833 (Green livery) augmented with Green-liveried SK 120 & 121 Nov-59.

BSK 3978 shewn as wdn 22-Feb-66.

834

Set 834 augmented with SK 123 & 124 Jan-53

835

Set 835 augmented with SK 125 & 126 Jan-53

CK 5853 shewn as wdn 14-Dec-65.

836

Set 836 (CLC livery) augmented with SK 127 & 128 (built 1950 CLC livery) Jan-53.

SK 127 wdn 16-May-64; replaced by SK 81 (ex.Loose) Jun-64.

BSK 3984 wdn 26-Mar-66.

837

Set 837 (CLC livery) augmented with SK 129 & 130 (built 1950 CLC livery) Jan-53.

BSK 3986 shewn as wdn 23-Apr-66.

838

5 Cor set in CLC & Green livery.

CK 5856 removed & withdrawn 2-Feb-65 and replaced by CK 5807 Jun-65.

 

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SK 71 of set 845 in the sidings at Ilfracombe on Tuesday, 28th August 1961

© A.E. West (Mike King collection)

 

Liveries

On the Southern Region, coaching stock sets (and multiple-units) were normally repainted (and varnished) as a complete set leading to a significant degree of consistency within each set. Lancing Carriage works was releasing repainted stock in SR Green early-February 1949 with Crimson Lake and Cream (CLC) appearing at least by March 1949.

However, when permission was given for the Southern Region to return to Green for its Corridor Passenger stock it rapidly embarked on a programme to repaint at the A2 repair for a number of vehicles in order to accelerate the return to Green. The last Crimson Lake & Cream vehicle (last of an eight-set) outshopped from Lancing carriage works on 17th July 1956 (the first BR Green set was outshopped earlier on 11th July 1956).

Where currently known, the table below provides the outshopping paint-date of the coaches used in these sets; for strengthened sets their original coaches all entered service in Crimson Lake & Cream livery with replacement and augmentation coaches being shewn in italic typeface.

Only sets 830-833 remained as 3 Cor in CLC livery; these were augmented to 5 Cor until after they had been repainted into BR(S) Green in November 1959. Sets 834 to 837 (3 Cor) were augmented to 5 Cor whilst still in CLC livery (Jan-53) and sets 838 to 849 were built as 5 Cor from new.

Date of vehicle withdrawn stated where known. However, please refer to the set notes to see from what set (or ’loose’) the coach was withdrawn.

 

‘L’ Set No.
(formed)

Coach
No.

Coach
Type

SR
Malachite

BR(S)
CLC

BR(S)
Green

Wdn

830

3971

BTK

No

2-Jul-50

25-Feb-57

May-66

(2-Jul-50)

114

SK

No

6-Oct-50

22-Feb-57

Nov-67

 

5848

CK

No

2-Jul-50

25-Feb-57

Sep-67

 

115

SK

No

6-Oct-50

31-Mar-58

Sep-67

 

3972

BTK

No

2-Jul-50

25-Feb-57

Oct-66

831

3973

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

7-Nov-56

Nov-66

(10-Jun-50)

116

SK

No

6-Oct-50

9-Nov-56

Sep-67

 

5849

CK

No

10-Jun-50

31-Oct-56

Aug-67

 

117

SK

No

6-Oct-50

11-Dec-56

Jul-67

 

3974

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

31-Oct-56

Sep-66

832

3975

BTK

No

12-Jun-50

7-Feb-57

Nov-67

(12-Jun-50)

118

TK

No

6-Oct-50

14-Dec-56

Sep-65

 

5850

CK

No

12-Jun-50

7-Feb-57

Aug-67

 

119

TK

No

6-Oct-50

20-Dec-56

Sep-64

 

3976

BTK

No

12-Jun-50

7-Feb-57

Jul-67

833

3977

BTK

No

14-Jun-50

11-Dec-56

Nov-67

(14-Jun-50)

120

TK

No

6-Oct-50

11-Dec-56

Jul-67

 

5851

CK

No

14-Jun-50

11-Dec-56

Apr-67

 

121

TK

No

Oct-50

4-Dec-56

Jul-67

 

3978

BTK

No

14-Jun-50

11-Dec-56

Feb-66

834

3979

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

14-Mar-57

Oct-66

(10-Jun-50)

123

TK

No

10-Jun-50

14-Mar-57

Dec-67

 

5852

CK

No

10-Jun-50

14-Mar-57

Jul-67

 

124

TK

No

10-Jun-50

14-Mar-57

Jul-67

 

3980

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

14-Mar-57

Oct-66

835

3981

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

21-Sep-56

Jul-67

(10-Jun-50)

125

TK

No

10-Jun-50

27-Sep-56

Jul-67

 

5853

CK

No

10-Jun-50

21-Sep-56

Dec-65

 

126

TK

No

10-Jun-50

24-Sep-56

Aug-67

 

3982

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

26-Sep-56

Oct-67

836

3983

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

6-May-57

Jul-67

(10-Jun-50)

127

TK

No

10-Jun-50

6-May-57

May-64

 

5854

CK

No

10-Jun-50

6-May-57

Aug-67

 

128

TK

No

10-Jun-50

6-May-57

May-67

 

3984

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

6-May-57

Mar-66

837

3985

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

6-Feb-57

Oct-66

(10-Jun-50)

129

TK

No

Oct-50

6-Feb-57

Sep-67

 

5855

CK

No

10-Jun-50

6-Feb-57

Aug-67

 

130

TK

No

Oct-50

6-Feb-57

Dec-67

 

3986

BTK

No

10-Jun-50

6-Feb-57

Apr-66

838

3987

BTK

No

30-May-50

13-Nov-56

Oct-66

(30-May-50)

57

TK

No

30-May-50

13-Nov-56

Oct-67

 

5856

CK

No

30-May-50

13-Nov-56

Feb-65

 

5807

CK

29-Sep-48

No

2-Jan-57

Aug-67

 

58

TK

No

30-May-50

15-Nov-56

Jul-67

 

3988

BTK

No

30-May-50

13-Nov-56

Sep-66

839

3989

BTK

No

30-May-50

12-Mar-58

May-66

(30-May-50)

59

TK

No

30-May-50

12-Mar-58

Oct-67

 

5857

CK

No

30-May-50

12-Mar-58

Sep-68

 

60

TK

No

30-May-50

12-Mar-58

Nov-67

 

3990

BTK

No

30-May-50

12-Mar-58

May-66

840

3991

BTK

No

30-May-50

5-Jul-56

Oct-67

(30-May-50)

61

TK

No

30-May-50

18-Jul-56

Aug-67

 

5858

CK

No

30-May-50

5-Jul-56

Jan-68

 

62

TK

No

30-May-50

9-Jul-56

May-67

 

3992

BTK

No

30-May-50

18-Jul-56

Sep-67

841

3993

BTK

No

30-May-50

8-Jul-59

Dec-66

(30-May-50)

63

TK

No

30-May-50

8-Jul-59

Jul-67

 

5859

CK

No

30-May-50

8-Jul-59

Jul-67

 

64

TK

No

30-May-50

8-Jul-59

Mar-67

 

3994

BTK

No

30-May-50

8-Jul-59

Sep-67

842

3995

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

1-Oct-56

Sep-67

(28-Apr-50)

65

TK

No

28-Apr-50

3-Oct-56

Sep-66

 

5860

CK

No

28-Apr-50

1-Oct-56

Oct-68

 

66

TK

No

28-Apr-50

1-Oct-56

Jul-67

 

3996

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

3-Oct-56

Aug-67

843

3997

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

9-Oct-56

Jul-67

(28-Apr-50)

67

TK

No

28-Apr-50

9-Oct-56

Jul-67

 

5861

CK

No

28-Apr-50

9-Oct-56

Oct-67

 

68

TK

No

28-Apr-50

8-Oct-56

Oct-66

 

3998

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

9-Oct-56

Nov-67

844

3999

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Feb-57

Oct-66

(28-Apr-50)

69

TK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Feb-57

Jul-67

 

5862

CK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Feb-57

Sep-66

 

70

TK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Feb-57

Sep-67

 

4000

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Feb-57

Jul-67

845

4001

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

18-May-57

Jan-66

(28-Apr-50)

71

TK

No

28-Apr-50

18-May-57

May-67

 

5863

CK

No

28-Apr-50

18-May-57

Jan-66

 

72

TK

No

28-Apr-50

18-May-57

Jul-67

 

4002

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

18-May-57

Jan-66

846

4003

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

29-Jul-57

Aug-67

(28-Apr-50)

73

TK

No

28-Apr-50

29-Jul-57

Aug-67

 

5864

CK

No

28-Apr-50

29-Jul-57

Aug-67

 

74

TK

No

28-Apr-50

29-Jul-57

Jul-66

 

4004

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

29-Jul-57

Jan-68

847

4005

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Jul-57

Jul-67

(28-Apr-50)

75

TK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Jul-57

Dec-65

 

5865

CK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Jul-57

Aug-67

 

76

TK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Jul-57

Jul-67

 

4006

BTK

No

28-Apr-50

20-Jul-57

Aug-67

848

4007

BTK

No

17-Apr-50

2-Nov-56

Jun-66

(17-Apr-50)

77

TK

No

17-Apr-50

2-Nov-56

Aug-67

 

5866

CK

No

17-Apr-50

23-Oct-56

Jul-67

 

78

TK

No

17-Apr-50

1-Nov-56

May-67

 

4008

BTK

No

17-Apr-50

2-Nov-56

Feb-66

849

4009

BTK

No

17-Apr-50

18-Nov-57

Aug-67

(17-Apr-50)

79

TK

No

17-Apr-50

18-Nov-57

Jul-67

 

5867

CK

No

17-Apr-50

18-Nov-57

Feb-66

 

80

TK

No

17-Apr-50

18-Nov-57

May-66

 

4010

BTK

No

17-Apr-50

18-Nov-57

Aug-67

 

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Diagram Numbers
Notes for ‘L’ Set Coaches

Diag.

 

 

 

 

 

2017

Bulleid TK (eight-compartment Third)

Nos.1932-1936 had 10¼” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.26-130 had 15” sliding sidelight vents.

2123

Bulleid BTK (Semi-open Brake Third).

Nos.2501-2532, 3943-3962 & 3971-4040 had 15” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.4301-4383 had 10¼” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.4349-4370 had extended side panels.

2318

Bulleid CK (Seven-compartment Corridor Composite)

Nos.5823-5837 /5848-5923 had 15” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.5740-5750 /5752-5754 & 5799–5811 had 10¼” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.5740-5750 had extended side panels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Recommended reading is as follows:

The Illustrated History of Southern Coaches
Mike King
[ISBN 0 86093 570 1]

Bulleid’s SR Steam Carriage Stock
David Gould
[ISBN ?]

Southern Coaches Survey – Pre-grouping and BR MK1 Stock
Mike King
[ISBN 978-0-86093-665-7].

Lancing 1956
Glen Woods
[ISBN 9 780956 765529]

 

Prepared by C. Watts with much thanks to the late Glen Woods, historical author Mike King (including permission to use photographs from his collection) and the excellent work of David Gould.

 

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