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Passenger Carrying Coaches

SR Corridor Stock
Bulleid Sets 850 to 865

 

BSK 2529 in set 864 at Axminster on Saturday, 20th September 1958.

© Ted West (Mike King collection)

 

‘L’ sets 850 to 857

In 1951 the last sets of Bulleid stock to enter traffic were with 3 Cor (three-coach Corridor) ‘L’ sets 850 to 857 and 3 Cor ‘H’ sets 858 to 865. Built to H.O order 3583, these coaches had 15” sliding vents.

3 Cor ‘L’ sets 850 to 857 were initially used London – Dover – Ramsgate – Margate. However, for June 1955, sets 851 to 857 were transferred from the SED to the SWD as ‘L’ sets (Waterloo –Salisbury – West of England /Waterloo - Weymouth). However, set 850 remained on the SED as an ‘L’ set (London – East Grinstead – Tunbridge Wells – Brighton) until it too was transferred to the SWD for June 1959.

In March 1966 those sets remaining in traffic were officially disbanded.

 

Set

Notes


854

Augmented for 1964 summer season with Maunsell SK coaches 1211, 1887 & 1824; these coaches being withdrawn October 1964.


855

Augmented for 1964 summer season with Maunsell SK coaches 1277, 1265 & 1879; these coaches being withdrawn October 1964.


857

Waterloo Record Card states withdrawal date for BSK 2516 as being 16th April 1976 but yields no clue as to its use prior to withdrawal.

BTK 2515 is now preserved on the Bluebell Railway.

 

 

CK 5909 in set 851 at Eastleigh on Saturday, 21st July 1962. Note the lack of intermediate buffers - these they were eventually restored to these sets by 1964.

© Peter H. Swift (Mike King collection)

 

‘H’ sets 858 to 865

3 Cor ‘H’ sets 858 to 865 (Waterloo –Salisbury – West of England) were originally intended as 3 Cor but each was initially augmented with two Corridor Thirds during the 1951 and 1952 summer seasons. These coaches had 15” sliding vents.

In March 1966 those sets remaining in traffic were officially disbanded.

 

Set

Notes

858

Strengthened to five coaches during summer 1951.

Augmented summer 1952 with ‘Loose’ TK coaches 107 & 130 (15” vents diag.2019).

As a 5 Cor, set 858 was eventually allocated to the ‘Royal Wessex’; possible following outshopping from Lancing on 20th March 1962.

859

Strengthened to five coaches during summer 1951.

Augmented summer 1952 with ‘Loose’ TK coaches 105 & 129 (15” vents diag.2019).

Waterloo Record Card states side buffers fitted 29th October 1962.


860

Strengthened to five coaches during summer 1951.

Augmented summer 1952 with ‘Loose’ TK coaches 116 & 117 (15” vents diag.2019).


861

Strengthened to five coaches during summer 1951.

Augmented summer 1952 with ‘Loose’ TK coaches 102 & 101 (15” vents diag.2019).


862

BTK 2516 is now preserved on the Bluebell Railway.

863

Strengthened to five coaches during summer 1951.

Augmented summer 1952 with ‘Loose’ TK coaches 121 & 117 (15” vents diag.2019). In Jun-53 TK 129 went to set 837.

864

Reduced to 2-set c.Jun-62 for use on ‘Royal Wessex’ services (Swanage portion) with BSK 2529 becoming ‘Loose’. Set disbanded June 1963 with CK 5922 to set 858 and BSK 2530 to ‘Loose’.


865

Waterloo Record Card states side buffers fitted 15th November 1962.

 

 

CK 5912 in set 854 at Eastleigh on Monday, 21st September 1959.

© Ted West (Mike King collection)

 

Formation of Sets

 

‘L’ Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK No.
(Semi-open)

TK.
No.

CK
No.

TK.
No.

TK.
No.

BTK No.
(Semi-open)

850

1-Feb-51
(3 Cor)

2501
(New)

-

5908
(New)

-

-

2502
(New)

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

851

1-Feb-51
(3 Cor)

2503
(New)

-

5909
(New)

-

-

2504
(New)

Wdn

4-Dec-65

 

 

 

 

 

 

852

1-Feb-51
(3 Cor)

2505
(New)

-

5910
(New)

-

-

2506
(New)

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

853

1-Feb-51
(3 Cor)

2507
(New)

-

5911
(New)

-

-

2508
(New)

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

854

20-Mar-51
(3 Cor)

2509
(New)

-

5912
(New)

-

-

2510
(New)

Strengthened

Jun-64
(6 Cor)*

"

1211‡1
(ex.974)

"

1887‡2
(ex.974)

1824‡3
(ex.983)

"

Reverted

Sep-64
(3 Cor)

"

-

"

-

-

"

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

855

30-Mar-51
(3 Cor)

2511
(New)

-

5913
(New)

-

-

2512
(New)

Strengthened

Jun-64
(6 Cor)*

"

1277‡4
(ex.958)

"

1265‡5
(ex.Loose)

1879‡6
(ex.Loose)

"

Reverted

Sep-64
(3 Cor)

"

-

"

-

-

"

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

856

9-Apr-51
(3 Cor)

2513
(New)

-

5914
(New)

-

-

2514
(New)

Wdn

Apr-64

 

 

 

 

 

 

857

13-Apr-51
(3 Cor)

2515
(New)

-

5915
(New)

-

-

2516
(New)

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

‘H’ Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK No.
(Semi-open)

TK.
No.

CK
No.

TK /CK
No.

BTK No.
(Semi-open)

Set
Livery

858

13-Apr-51
(3 Cor)

2517
(New)

§

5916‡7
(New)

§

2518
(New)

CLC

Strengthened

Jun-52
(3 Cor)

"

107§
(Loose)

"

130§
(Loose)

"

CLC

Reverted

by Jun-53
(3 Cor)

"

-

"

-

"

CLC thence Green

Augmented

Jun-62
(5 Cor)

"

100‡8
(ex.Loose)

"

5895‡9
(ex.Loose)

"

Green

Reformed

Jun-63
(5 Cor)

"

"

5922‡10
(ex.864)

"

"

Green

Reformed

Jun-64
(5 Cor)

"

"

15913‡11
(ex.Loose)

"

"

Green

Reformed

Feb-65
(5 Cor)

"

"

"

42‡12
(ex.Loose)

"

Green

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

859

20-Apr-51
(3 Cor)

2519
(New)

§

5917
(New)

§

2520
(New)

CLC

Strengthened

Jun-52
(3 Cor)

"

105§
(Loose)

"

129§
(Loose)

"

CLC

Reverted

by Jun-53
(3 Cor)

"

-

"

-

"

CLC thence Green

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

860

20-Apr-51
(3 Cor)

2521
(New)

-

5918
(New)

-

2522
(New)

CLC thence Green

Wdn

6-Nov-65

 

 

 

 

 

 

861

May-51
(3 Cor)

2523‡13
(New)

-

5919
(New)

-

2524
(New)

CLC thence Green

Reformed

Feb-65
(3 Cor)

3957‡14
(ex.266)

-

"

-

"

Green

Disb.

by 1965

 

 

 

 

 

 

862

1-May-51
(3 Cor)

2525
(New)

-

5920
(New)

-

2526
(New)

CLC thence Green

Disb.

Mar-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

863

1-May-51
(3 Cor)

2527
(New)

-

5921
(New)

-

2528
(New)

CLC thence Green

Disb.

by Mar-65

 

 

 

 

 

 

864

1-May-51
(3 Cor)

2529‡15
(New)

-

5922
(New)

-

2530
(New)

CLC thence Green

Reformed

c.Jun-62
(2 set)

2529
(To Loose)

-

"

-

"

Green

Disb.

Jun-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

865

25-May-51
(3 Cor)

2531
(New)

-

5923
(New)

-

2532‡16
(New)

CLC thence Green

Reformed

Jun-64
(3 Cor)

"

-

"

-

4352‡17
(ex.291)

Green

Disb

by Dec-65

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notes

 

#

See livery table for painting dates of coaches prior to insertion into set.

*

Order of set formation to be confirmed.

Ϯ

Believed during A2 exam

Ά

New

§

Augmented with Loose TK coaches for summer 1951 and 1952 services (see notes for more details).

Sep-52 saw sets 863 to 865 revert to 3 Cor. However, all sets were 3 Cor by Jun-53.

HW

High Window coach (Maunsell)

‡1

TK 1211 (HW to diag.2001 with two lavatory vents). Ex.974. Wdn Oct-64.

‡2

TK 1887 (HW to diag.2008 with flush panelling). Ex.Loose. Wdn Oct-64.

‡3

TK 1824 (HW to diag.2001 with two lavatory vents). Ex.983. Wdn Oct-64.

‡4

TK 1277 (HW to diag.2001 with two lavatory vents). Ex.958. Wdn Oct-64.

‡5

TK 1265 (HW to diag.2001 with two lavatory vents). Ex.Loose. Wdn Oct-64.

‡6

TK 1879 (HW to diag.2008 with flush panelling). Ex.Loose. Wdn Oct-64.

‡7

CK 5916 (15” vents diag.2318) to ‘Loose’ Jun-64, set 66 Jun-65 thence wdn Aug-67.

‡8

TK 100 (15” vents diag.2019) new ‘Loose’. Set 858 Jun-62. Wdn Jul-67.

‡9

CK 5895 (15” vents diag.2318) new ‘Loose’. Set 858 Jun-62. To ‘Loose’ Jun-65 thence wdn Oct-67.

‡10

CK 5922 (15” vents diag.2019) new set 864. Set 858 Jun-63. Wdn Jan-67.

‡11

CK 15913 (BR Mk1 diag. no.128 to Lot 222 - Metro- Cammell) new ‘Loose’ Oct-56 then set 858 Jun-64. To W.R. 20-Nov-71.

‡12

SK 42 (15” vents diag.2019) new set 265 Jun-50 thence ‘Loose’ Jun-59, set 897 Nov-59, ‘Loose’ Jun-64. Set 858 Feb-65. Wdn Jul-67.

‡13

BTK 2523 (15” vents diag.2123). Wdn Jan-65.

‡14

BTK 3957 (15” vents diag.2123) ex.266. Wdn Aug-67.

‡15

BTK 2529 (15” vents diag.2123) to ‘Loose’ c.Jun-62 with set 864 reduced to 2-set for use on ‘Royal Wessex’ services.

‡16

BTK 2532 (15” vents diag.2123) new set 865. Wdn 18-Apr-64.

‡17

BTK 4352 (10Ό” vents & extended side panels diag.2123) ex.291. Wdn Sep-66.

Cond.

Condemned

Disb.

Disbanded

Wdn.

Withdrawn

 

 

BTK 2521 and CK 5918 (set 860) at Eardley Road sidings on Sunday, 1st July 1951. Note the lack of intermediate buffers on the vehicles. These were removed from sets 850 to 865; eventually being restored by 1964.

© Denis Cullum (Mike King collection)

 

Liveries

On the Southern Region, coaching stock sets (and multiple-units) were normally repainted (and varnished) as a complete set leading to a significant degree of consistency within each set. Lancing Carriage works was releasing repainted stock in SR Green early-February 1949 with Crimson Lake and Cream (CLC) appearing at least by March 1949.

However, when permission was given for the Southern Region to return to Green for its Corridor Passenger stock it rapidly embarked on a programme to repaint at the A2 repair for a number of vehicles in order to accelerate the return to Green. The last Crimson Lake & Cream vehicle outshopped from Lancing carriage works appears to have been on 17th July 1956 with the first BR Green set outshopped on 11th July 1956.

Where currently known, the table below provides the outshopping paint-date of the coaches used in these sets; for strengthened sets their original coaches all entered service in Crimson Lake & Cream livery with replacement and augmentation coaches being shewn in italic typeface.

 

‘L’ Set No.
(formed)

Coach
No.

Coach
Type

Diag.
No.

BR(S)
CLC

BR(S)
Green

Wdn

850

(1-Feb-51)

2501

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

2-Oct-59

Aug-67

5908

CK

2318

1-Feb-51

2-Oct-59

Aug-67

2502

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

2-Oct-59

Aug-67

851

(1-Feb-51)

2503

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

22-Jul-57

4-Dec-65

5909

CK

2318

1-Feb-51

22-Jul-57

4-Dec-65

2504

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

22-Jul-57

4-Dec-65

852

(1-Feb-51)

2505

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

30-Aug-57

Sep-66

5910

CK

2318

1-Feb-51

30-Aug-57

Aug-67

2506

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

30-Aug-57

Jul-67

853

(1-Feb-51)

2507

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

29-Dec-59

Aug-67

5911

CK

2318

1-Feb-51

29-Dec-59

Sep-66

2508

BTK

2123

1-Feb-51

29-Dec-59

Jul-67

854

(20-Mar-51)

2509

BTK

2123

20-Mar-51

8-Feb-57

Mar-67

5912

CK

2318

20-Mar-51

8-Feb-57

Sep-67

2510

BTK

2123

20-Mar-51

8-Feb-57

Jul-67

 

1211

SK

2001

9-Sep-50

8-Feb-58 Ϯ

Oct-64

 

1824

SK

2001

31-Jan-51

23-Jul-57 Ϯ

Oct-64

 

1887

SK

2008

26-Aug-55

17-May-57

Oct-64

855

(30-Mar-51)

2511

BTK

2123

30-Mar-51

10-Jul-57

Aug-67

5913

CK

2318

30-Mar-51

10-Jul-57

Sep-67

2512

BTK

2123

30-Mar-51

10-Jul-57

Aug-67

 

1265

SK

2001

19-Aug-53

18-Jun-58 Ϯ

Oct-64

 

1277

SK

2001

26-Jun-51

4-Nov-57 Ϯ

Oct-64

 

1879

SK

2008

No

4-Nov-59

Oct-64

856

(9-Apr-51)

2513

BTK

2123

9-Apr-51

28-Oct-57

Apr-64

5914

CK

2318

9-Apr-51

28-Oct-57

Apr-64

2514

BTK

2123

9-Apr-51

28-Oct-57

Apr-64

857

(13-Apr-51)

2515

BTK

2123

13-Apr-51

6-May-57

Sep-66

5915

CK

2318

13-Apr-51

6-May-57

Jul-67

2516

BTK

2123

13-Apr-51

6-May-57

16-Apr-76

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

‘H’ Set No.
(formed)

Coach
No.

Coach
Type

Diag.
No.

BR(S)
CLC

BR(S)
Green

Wdn

858

(15-Apr-51)

2517

BTK

2123

15-Apr-51

16-Jul-57

Aug-67

5916

CK

2318

15-Apr-51

16-Jul-57

Aug-67

2518

BTK

2123

15-Apr-51

16-Jul-57

Aug-67

 

15913

CK

128

No

Oct-56

W.R.

 

5922

CK

2318

1-May-51Ά

29-Dec-59

Jan-67

 

5895

CK

2318

20-Dec-49Ά

8-Dec-57 Ϯ

Oct-67

 

100

SK

2019

8-Sep-50Ά

3-Feb-58 Ϯ

Jul-67

 

42

SK

2019

Dec-49Ά

Sep-58

Jul-67

859

(20-Apr-51)

2519

BTK

2123

20-Apr-51

26-Oct-60

Apr-67

5917

CK

2318

20-Apr-51

26-Oct-60

Jul-67

2520

BTK

2123

20-Apr-51

26-Oct-60

Dec-67

860

(20-Apr-51)

2521

BTK

2123

20-Apr-51

18-Oct-57

6-Nov-65

5918

CK

2318

20-Apr-51

18-Oct-57

6-Nov-65

2522

BTK

2123

20-Apr-51

18-Oct-57

6-Nov-65

861

(1-May-51)

2523

BTK

2123

1-May-51

17-May-57

Jan-65

5919

CK

2318

1-May-51

17-May-57

Aug-67

2524

BTK

2123

1-May-51

17-May-57

Oct-66

 

3957

BTK

2123

10-Dec-49Ά

15-Nov-57

Aug-67

862

(1-May-51)

2525

BTK

2123

1-May-51

23-May-57

Oct-67

5920

CK

2318

1-May-51

23-May-57

Oct-67

2526

BTK

2123

1-May-51

23-May-57

Mar-67

863

(1-May-51)

2527

BTK

2123

1-May-51

21-Oct-59

May-66

5921

CK

2318

1-May-51

21-Oct-59

Sep-66

2528

BTK

2123

1-May-51

21-Oct-59

May-65

864

(1-May-51)

2529

BTK

2123

1-May-51

29-Dec-59

Jul-67

5922

CK

2318

1-May-51

29-Dec-59

Jan-67

2530

BTK

2123

1-May-51

29-Dec-59

Aug-67

865

(25-May-51)

2531

BTK

2123

1-May-51

6-Aug-58

1-Jan-66

5923

CK

2318

1-May-51

6-Aug-58

4-Dec-65

2532

BTK

2123

1-May-51

6-Aug-58

18-Apr-64

 

4352

BSK

2123

28-Jan-55

27-Jan-58

Sep-66

 

 

 

BSK 2529 with carriage roundel for the Royal Wessex at Eastleigh on 1st June 1962.

© Ted West (Mike King collection)

 

Diagram Numbers

Diag.

 

 

 

 

 

2001

Maunsell TK (Corridor Third 1930-1934 High Window).

Coaches numbered 1131-on had two lavatory vents.

2008

Maunsell TK (Corridor Third 1935-1936) built with slender overall finish of each coach assisted by narrow cantrail guttering.

Frameless sidelights were virtually flush with the coach sides (larger lights having large radius corners); visible screw heads where bodyside steel sheeting fixed to the wooden sidelight frames.

2019

Bulleid TK (Eight-compartment Corridor Third)

Nos.26-130 had 15” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.1932-1936 had 10Ό” sliding sidelight vents.

2123

Bulleid BTK (Semi-open Brake Third).

Nos.2501-2532, 3943-3962 & 3971-4040 had 15” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.4301-4383 had 10Ό” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.4349-4370 had extended side panels

2318

Bulleid CK (Seven-compartment Corridor Composite)

Nos.5823-5837 /5848-5923 had 15” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.5740-5750 /5752-5754 & 5799 – 5811 had 10Ό” sliding sidelight vents.

Nos.5740-5750 had extended side panels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Recommended reading is as follows:

The Illustrated History of Southern Coaches
Mike King
[ISBN 0 86093 570 1]

Bulleid’s SR Steam Carriage Stock
David Gould
[ISBN ?]

Southern Coaches Survey – Pre-grouping and BR MK1 Stock
Mike King
[ISBN 978-0-86093-665-7].

Lancing 1956
Glen Woods
[ISBN 9 780956 765529]

 

 

 

Prepared by C. Watts with much thanks to the late Glen Woods, historical author Mike King (including permission to use photographs from his collection) and the excellent work of David Gould.

 

 

 

 


 
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