Passenger
Carrying Coaches
Bulleid’s ‘Multidoor’ Stock
(963-980 & 981-984)
‘Mulitdoor’ compartment
side of ex-works 59’ CK no.5726 from set
980. © British Railways (Mike King Collection) |
59’ Sets 963 to 980
Following Bulleid’s succession to Maunsell on the Southern Railway, designs were started in
1938 for new coaching stock on the South Western Main Line from Waterloo to
Bournemouth – Weymouth and Salisbury – Exeter routes. Although design work
commenced in 1938 the order couldn’t be place until 1944 for eighteen number
three-coach restriction ‘4’ sets (numbered 963 to 980) built on Maunsell-type 59ft underframes.
These underframes had been fabricated in 1940 but when WW2
stopped the construction of the coach bodies the underframes were placed into store
which sadly set them up for corrosion in later life. The BTK coaches (nos.2841
to 2876) seated 40 no. 3rd class passengers; the CK coaches
(nos.5709 to 5726) seated 24 no. 1st class and 24 no. 3rd
class passengers.
Three-car sets numbered 963 to 980 were formed:
BTK (to Diagram 2121) |
CK (to Diagram 2316) |
BTK (to Diagram 2121) |
In 1941 Bullied had introduced a bodyside profile on 4 SUB unit
no.4101 featuring a new profile (with a continuous curve from floor level) and
these coaches adopted that style. On the doors they also featured the
characteristic lozenge-shaped toplights above the
droplights; a particular useful feature for looking out when standing ready to
leave the coach (the bodyside curve of the coach would not permit a deeper
/taller droplight).
With doors for each compartment on the non-corridor side
(following Maunsell’s coach-layout practice) they
became known as ‘multidoor’ coaches; particularly after the later designs of Bulleid coaches employing saloons and compartments with vestibules
entered service. This saloon /vestibule stock offered greater passenger comfort
and ‘multidoor’ stock quickly found less favour with express services.
In 2019 Hornby produced models of 59’
‘multidoor’ stock; the modelling
of which is covered towards the end of this webpage. |
Corridor side of ex-works 59’ CK no.5726 from
set 980. © British Railways (Mike King Collection) |
Original 59’ Formations
The date identified for each 59’ set formation (unless stated
otherwise) is the outshopping of the last vehicle needed to form each set; this
being the CK coaches.
Where these sets were subsequently strengthened the
strengthening vehicles /details are shew in the section titled ‘59’ Set
Strengthening’; only strengthening dates and subsequent reformation
dates are provided here.
Set |
Formed
/Reform. |
BTK |
BTK |
CK |
CK |
BTK |
BTK |
963 |
14-Mar-46 |
2841#1 |
Cond‡2 |
5709 |
Cond‡1 |
2842#1 |
Cond‡1 |
Cond. |
19-Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
964 |
14-Mar-46 |
2843#1 |
Wdn |
5710 |
Wdn |
2844#1 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jan-64 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed# |
Feb-65 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdn |
12-Oct-66 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
965 |
5-Mar-46 |
2845#3 |
Wdn |
5711 |
Wdn |
2846#3 |
Wdn |
Wdn |
28-Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
966 |
20-Mar-46 |
2847#3 |
Wdn |
5712 |
Wdn |
2848#3 |
Wdn |
Wdn |
28-Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
967 |
21-Feb-46 |
2849‡4 |
Wdn |
|
Wdn |
2850‡4 |
Wdn |
Reformed |
Jun-64 |
" |
" |
5719 |
Wdn |
" |
" |
Strengthened |
Jun-64 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Disb |
c.Sep-65 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
968 |
15-Feb-46 |
2851‡4 |
Wdn |
5714 |
Wdn |
2852‡4 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-64 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Disb |
c.Jun-67 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
969 |
27-Mar-46 |
2853‡4 |
Wdn |
5715 |
Wdn |
2854‡4 |
Wdn |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
970 |
11-Mar-46 |
2855‡4 |
Wdn |
5716 |
Wdn |
2856‡4 |
Wdn |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
971 |
26-Feb-46 |
2857‡4 |
Wdn |
5717 |
Wdn |
2858‡4 |
Wdn |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
972 |
5-Mar-46 |
2859‡4 |
Wdn |
5718 |
Wdn |
2860‡4 |
Wdn |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
973 |
11-Mar-46 |
2861‡4 |
984 |
5719 |
967 |
2862‡4 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Aug-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Disb |
c.Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
974 |
27-Mar-46 |
2863‡4 |
Wdn |
5720 |
Wdn |
2864‡4 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Disb. |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
975 |
31-Dec-45 |
2865‡4 |
Wdn |
5721 |
Wdn |
2866‡4 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
976 |
20-Mar-46 |
2867‡5 |
Wdn |
5722 |
Wdn |
2868‡5 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Oct-62 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed# |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed# |
Jun-64 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdn |
Jun-67 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
977 |
19-Jan-46 |
2869‡5 |
Wdn |
5723 |
Wdn |
2870‡5 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
978 |
8-Apr-46 |
2871‡6 |
Wdn |
5724 |
Wdn |
2872‡6 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
979 |
15-Feb-46 |
2873‡6 |
Wdn |
5725 |
Wdn |
2874‡6 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdn |
by Dec-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
980 |
12-Apr-46 |
2875‡7 |
Wdn |
5726 |
Wdn |
2876‡7 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-62 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed# |
Jun-64 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed# |
Feb-65 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Disb |
c.Jun-66 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Note |
Set Notes |
# |
Strengthened
set reformed around original set’s coaches. |
‡1 |
Outshopped
new 20-Nov-45 |
‡3 |
Broken up at Eastleigh 1-Feb-64 |
‡3 |
Outshopped new 1-Dec-45 |
‡4 |
Outshopped new 31-Dec-45 |
‡5 |
Outshopped new 19-Jan-46 |
‡6 |
Outshopped new 31-Jan-46 |
‡7 |
Outshopped new 6-Feb-46 |
Cond. |
Condemned |
Disb. |
Disbanded |
Wdn. |
Withdrawn |
Corridor side of ex-works 59’ BTK no.2876 from
set 980. © British Railways (Mike King Collection) |
59’ Set Strengthening
Whilst withdrawals started in December 1963 (with set nos.963,
965, 966, 969, 970, 971, 972, 982, 983 & 984; later followed by 974, 975,
977, 978 and 979) from June 1962-on set nos. 964, 967, 968, 973, 974, 975, 976,
979 and 980 were strengthened up to eight-coaches with the following information
obtained from both the Lancing Works and CM&EE Record Cards for each set.
Set |
Coach |
Number |
Ex. Set |
Date. |
Diag. No. |
964 |
BSK |
2843 |
964 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1829 #10 |
982 |
Jun-64 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1728 |
982 |
Jun-64 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5710 |
964 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
CK |
5907 |
433 |
Jun-64 |
2319 (B) |
|
SK |
1837 #11 |
433 |
Jun-64 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1235 #12 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2001 (M) |
|
BSK |
2844 |
964 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
964 |
BSK |
2843 |
964 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
31 #13 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
1728 #14 |
982 |
Jun-64 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5710 |
964 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
CK |
5907 #15 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2319 (B) |
|
SK |
90 #16 |
474 |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
91 #17 |
474 |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2844 |
964 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
967 |
BSK |
2849 |
967 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
(CK) |
(5719) |
(973) |
(Jun-64) |
(2316 (B) |
|
BSK |
2850 |
967 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
967 |
BSK |
2849 |
967 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
47 ‡19 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
1932 ‡20 |
823 |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
CK |
5719 ‡21 |
973 |
Jun-64 |
2316 (B) |
|
CK |
5900 ‡22 |
973 |
Jun-64 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1933 ‡23 |
823 |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
1934 ‡24 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2850 |
967 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
968 |
BSK |
2851 |
968 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
51 ‡25 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
52 ‡26 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
CK |
5714 |
968 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
CK |
5885 ‡27 |
271 |
Jun-64 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
53 ‡28 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
55 ‡29 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2852 |
968 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
973 |
BSK |
2861 |
973 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1206 ‡30 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1863 ‡31 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5900 ‡32 |
961 |
Jun-63 |
2316 (B |
|
CK |
5719 |
973 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
1898 ‡33 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1915 ‡34 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2011 (M) |
|
BSK |
2862 |
973 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
974 |
BSK |
2863 |
974 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1211 ‡35 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001 (M) |
|
CK |
5720 |
974 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
1865 ‡36 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1887 ‡37 |
249 |
Jun-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2864 |
974 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
975 |
BSK |
2865 |
975 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1212 ‡38 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001 (M) |
|
CK |
5721 |
975 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
1268 ‡39 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1813 ‡40 |
956 |
Jun-63 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
BSK |
2866 |
975 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
976 |
BSK |
2867 |
976 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1225 |
Loose |
Oct-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5722 |
976 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
BSK |
2868 |
976 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
976 |
BSK |
2867 |
976 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1225 ‡41 |
Loose |
Oct-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5722 |
976 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SO |
---- |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
SO |
---- |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
BSK |
2868 |
976 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
976 |
BSK |
2867 |
976 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
46 ‡42 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
48 ‡43 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
CK |
5722 |
976 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
CK |
5751 ‡44 |
770 |
Jun-64 |
2315 (B) |
|
SK |
49 ‡45 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
39 ‡46 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2868 |
976 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
977 |
BSK |
2869 |
977 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
---- |
---- |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
CK |
5723 |
977 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
BSK |
2870 |
977 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
978 (Wdn) |
BSK |
2871 |
978 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
---- |
---- |
Apr-63 |
---- |
|
SK |
---- |
---- |
Apr-63 |
---- |
|
CK |
5806 ‡47 |
436 |
Apr-63 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5724 |
978 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
---- |
---- |
Apr-63 |
---- |
|
SK |
---- |
---- |
Apr-63 |
---- |
|
BSK |
2872 |
978 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
979 |
BSK |
2873 |
979 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
---- |
---- |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
SK |
---- |
---- |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
CK |
5876 ‡48 |
266 |
Jun-63 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5725 |
979 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
---- |
---- |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
SK |
---- |
---- |
Jun-63 |
---- |
|
BSK |
2874 |
979 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
980 |
BSK |
2875 |
980 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1803 ‡49 |
|
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1804 ‡50 |
|
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
CK |
5874 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5726 |
980 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
1805 ‡51 |
|
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1808 ‡52 |
|
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
BSK |
2876 |
980 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
980 |
BSK |
2875 |
980 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1206 ‡53 |
973 |
Jun-64 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1729 |
883 |
Jun-64 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5874 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5726 |
980 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
1236 ‡54 |
|
Jun-64 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1208 ‡55 |
|
Jun-64 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2876 |
980 |
New |
2121 (B) |
|
980 |
BSK |
2875 |
980 |
New |
2121 (B) |
SK |
85 ‡56 |
474 |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
1729 ‡57 |
983 |
Jun-64 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5874 ‡58 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5726 |
980 |
New |
2316 (B) |
|
SK |
86 ‡59 |
474 |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
87 ‡60 |
474 |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2876 |
980 |
New |
2121 (B) |
Note |
Set |
Strengthening Notes |
B |
|
Bullied
coach |
M |
|
Maunsell coach |
Ϯ |
|
Two
lavatory-vents |
Note1 |
964 |
Set
964 possibly OOU Oct-64 to Feb-65 |
Note2 |
967 |
Set
967 CK 5711 withdrawn Dec-63 but not replaced with 59’ 5719 (ex. disb.973)
until Jun-64. |
Note3 |
967 |
Set
967 possibly OOU until Jun-64 reformation and strengthening when 59’ CK 5719 (ex.
973) added to the set along with strengthening with 64’ CK 5900 (ex.961) and
64’ SK coaches 1932, 1933 & 1934 (ex. Loose). |
‡10 |
964 |
SK 1829
withdrawn Oct-64 |
‡11 |
SK 1837 withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
‡12 |
SK 1235 withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
‡13 |
SK 31 withdrawn Jun-67 |
|
‡14 |
SK 1728 (ex. CK 5728 set 982) withdrawn
Aug-66 |
|
‡15 |
CK 5907 withdrawn Jan-68 |
|
‡16 |
SK 90 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
‡17 |
SK 91 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡18 |
967 |
CK 5711 withdrawn Dec-63 (orig. CK for
set 967). |
‡19 |
SK 47 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
‡20 |
SK 1932 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
‡21 |
CK 5719 (ex. set 973) withdrawn
Jul-67 |
|
‡22 |
CK 5900 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡23 |
SK 1933 withdrawn Dec-67 |
|
‡24 |
SK 1934 withdrawn May-68 |
|
‡25 |
968 |
SK 51 withdrawn Jun-67 |
‡26 |
SK 52 withdrawn Nov-67 |
|
‡27 |
CK 5885 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡28 |
SK 53 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡29 |
SK 55 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡30 |
973 |
SK 1206 withdrawn Nov-64 |
‡31 |
SK 1863 withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
‡32 |
CK 5900 to set 967 Jun-64 |
|
‡33 |
SK 1898 withdrawn Jun-64 |
|
‡34 |
SK 1915 withdrawn Jun-64 |
|
‡35 |
974 |
SK 1211 withdrawn Oct-64 |
‡36 |
SK 1865 withdrawn Jun-64 |
|
‡37 |
SK 1887 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
‡38 |
975 |
SK 1212 withdrawn Jul-65 |
‡39 |
SK 1268 withdrawn May-64 |
|
‡40 |
SK 1813 withdrawn Jul-64 |
|
‡41 |
976 |
SK 1225 withdrawn 18-Apr-64 |
‡42 |
SK 46 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡43 |
SK 48 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
‡44 |
CK 5751 (Prototype seven-comp.) withdrawn
Jul-67 |
|
‡45 |
SK 49 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡46 |
SK 39 withdrawn Dec-67 |
|
‡47 |
978 |
CK 5806 withdrawn 16-May-64 |
‡48 |
979 |
CK 5876 withdrawn 16-May-64 |
‡49 |
980 |
SK 1803 withdrawn Dec-63 |
‡50 |
SK 1804 withdrawn Dec-62 |
|
‡51 |
SK 1805 withdrawn 16-May-64 |
|
‡52 |
SK 1808 to Loose (Bertram Mills
train) date XXX |
|
‡53 |
SK 1206 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
‡54 |
SK 1236 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
‡55 |
SK 1208 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
‡56 |
SK 85 withdrawn Oct-67 |
|
‡57 |
SK 1729 (ex. CK 5729 set 983)
withdrawn Sep-66 |
|
‡58 |
CK 5874 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡59 |
SK 86 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
‡60 |
SK 87 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
Cond. |
|
Condemned |
Disb. |
|
Disbanded |
OOU |
|
Out of Use |
Wdn. |
|
Withdrawn |
Southern liveried CK 5730 in set 984 at Clapham Yard (Monday, 29th July 1946) © Dennis Cullum (Mike King Collection) |
64’ Sets 981 to 984
During 1946 a further four Bulleid
‘multidoor’ sets were introduced; these being set numbers 981 & 982 - June
1946 and 983 & 984 – July 1946. However, these sets were built on the ‘new’
64’ underframes; this being adopted as the standard length for Southern
coaching stock. As a consequence, the BTK coaches (nos. 2877 to 2884) had six
compartments (48 no. 3rd class seats with a slightly smaller brake
van) whilst the CK coaches (nos. 5727 to 5730) had an additional third-class
compartment (24 no. 1st /32 no. 3rd class seats).
Three-car sets 981 to 984 were formed:
BTK (to Diagram 2122) |
CK (to Diagram 2317) |
BTK (to Diagram 2122) |
The 64’ Bulleid ‘multidoor’ stock
initially spend some time on Brighton /Portsmouth – Bristol services before
being concentrated back on SW main line workings.
Where these sets were subsequently strengthened the
strengthening vehicles /details are shew in the section titled ‘64’ Set
Strengthening’; only strengthening dates and subsequent reformation
dates are provided here.
Set |
Formed
/Reform. |
BTK |
BTK |
CK |
CK (as
SK) |
BTK |
BTK |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2877 |
Wdn |
5727 |
981 |
2878 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-62 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
5884 |
|
" |
" |
Reformed |
Jun-64 |
" |
" |
" |
|
" |
" |
Reformed |
Feb-65 |
" |
" |
" |
|
" |
" |
Wdl |
c.Jun-67 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2879 |
Wdn |
5728 |
964 |
2880 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-62 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed |
May-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Wdl |
c.Sep-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2881 |
Wdn |
5729 |
980 |
2882 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-62 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Disb |
c.Sep-63 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2883 |
Wdn |
5730 |
984 |
2884 |
Wdn |
Strengthened |
Jun-62 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed |
Jun-63 |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
" |
Reformed |
Jun-64 |
2861 |
|
5897 |
|
" |
" |
Reformed |
Feb-65 |
" |
|
" |
|
" |
" |
Wdl |
c.Jun-67 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Note |
Set Notes |
# |
Strengthened
set reformed around original set’s coaches. |
Cond. |
Condemned |
Disb. |
Disbanded |
Wdl. |
Withdrawal (approximate date
believed set taken out of service) |
BR(S)
Green liveried BSK 2884 in strengthened set 984 at Basingstoke. Whilst the
adjacent Maunsell SK is probably 1857, the number
of the locomotive is unknown. (Friday, 8th June 1962) © Peter H. Swift (Mike King Collection) |
CK Reclassifications
In 1964 all four 64’ multidoor CK
coachers were reclassified SK and renumbered; two of these (1728 & 1729)
were placed into other sets:
CK |
Set |
Date |
SK |
Set |
Date |
5727 |
981 |
Sep-64 |
1727 |
981 |
Aug-67 |
5728 |
982 |
Sep-64 |
1728 |
964 |
Aug-66 |
5729 |
983 |
Aug-64 |
1729 |
980 |
Sep-66 |
5730 |
984 |
Apr 64 |
1730 |
984 |
Aug-67 |
BR(S)
Green liveried CK 2884 in recently-strengthened set 984 at Basingstoke. Just
visible is Bulleid CK 5872 and (with its two
lavatory window vents) the adjacent Maunsell coach
appears to be SK 1810 (many Maunsell coaches were
used for set-strengthening prior to their withdrawal). (Friday, 8th June 1962) © Peter H. Swift (Mike King Collection) |
64’ Set Strengthening
Towards the end of their working life all four 64’ sets were
strengthened to eight-car using Bulleid and Maunsell coaches with the following information obtained
from both the Lancing Works and CM&EE Record Cards for each set. The dates
beneath each set indicate the formation of that set until withdrawal of its
coaches; the set probably having previously been taken out of service.
NB - It
should be noted that there are some discrepancies between these official Record
Card and Carriage Working Notice formations and contemporary observations made
by the Southern
Carriage & Wagon Society (a group of rolling stock enthusiasts led by
Laurie Mack from 1959 to about 1968).
Set |
Coach |
Number |
Ex. Set |
Date. |
Diag. No. |
981 |
BSK |
2877 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1858 ‡70 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1874 ‡71 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5868 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5727 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
1822 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1890 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2878 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
981 |
BSK |
2877 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1883 ‡72 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1914 ‡73 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2011 (M) |
|
CK |
5868 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5727 ‡74 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
1822 ‡75 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1890 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2878 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
981 |
BSK |
2877 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1727 |
981 |
Jun-64 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
1852 ‡76 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5884 |
80 |
Jun-64 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5868 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1192 ‡77 |
955 |
Jun-64 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1890 ‡78 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2878 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
981 |
BSK |
2877 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1727 ‡79 |
981 |
Jun-64 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
34 ‡80 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
CK |
5884 ‡81 |
80 |
Jun-64 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5868 ‡82 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
35 ‡83 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
36 ‡84 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2878 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
982 |
BSK |
2879 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1829 |
269 |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1855 ‡85 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5728 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5808 |
239 |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1834 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1864 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2880 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
982 |
BSK |
2879 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1829 ‡86 |
269 |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1853 ‡87 |
Loose |
May-63 |
2008 (M) |
|
CK |
5728 ‡88 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5808 ‡89 |
239 |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1834 ‡90 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1864 ‡91 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2880 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
983 |
BSK |
2881 |
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1270 ‡92 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1276 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001 (M) |
|
CK |
5869 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5729 |
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
1273 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1274 ‡93 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001 (M) |
|
BSK |
2882 |
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
983 |
BSK |
2881 |
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1824 ‡94 |
960 |
Jun-63 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1276 ‡95 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001 (M) |
|
CK |
5869 ‡96 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5729 |
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
1273 ‡97 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001 (M) |
|
SK |
1843 ‡98 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
BSK |
2882 |
983 |
4-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
984 |
BSK |
2883 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1888 ‡99 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
SK |
1810 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
CK |
5730 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5872 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1835 |
204 |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1857 ‡100 |
803 |
Jun-62 |
2008 (M) |
|
BSK |
2884 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
984 |
BSK |
2883 ‡101 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
SK |
1810 ‡102 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1194 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001 (M) |
|
CK |
5730 ‡103 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
CK |
5872 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1835 ‡104 |
204 |
Jun-62 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1917 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2011 (M) |
|
BSK |
2884 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
984 |
BSK |
2861 |
973 |
Jun-64 |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1730 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
1194 ‡105 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2001 (M) |
|
CK |
5897 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5872 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
1863 ‡106 |
973 |
Jun-64 |
2001Ϯ (M) |
|
SK |
1917 ‡107 |
Loose |
Jun-63 |
2011 (M) |
|
BSK |
2884 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
|
984 |
BSK |
2861 ‡108 |
973 |
Jun-64 |
2121 (B) |
SK |
1730 ‡109 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2317 (B) |
|
SK |
38 ‡110 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
CK |
5897 ‡111 |
Loose |
Jun-64 |
2318 (B) |
|
CK |
5872 ‡112 |
Loose |
Jun-62 |
2318 (B) |
|
SK |
40 ‡113 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
SK |
41 ‡114 |
Loose |
Feb-65 |
2019 (B) |
|
BSK |
2884 |
984 |
25-Jul-46 |
2122 (B) |
Note |
Set |
Strengthening Notes |
B |
|
Bullied
coach |
M |
|
Maunsell coach |
Ϯ |
|
Two
lavatory-vents |
Note 4 |
982 |
Carriage
Working Notice for Jun-62 identifies SK 1890 (Loose to set 981) in formation instead
of SK 1864. |
Note 5 |
984 |
Carriage
Working Notice for Jun-62 identifies SK 1843 (Loose to set 983) in formation instead
of SK 1857. |
#70 |
981 |
SK
1858 withdrawn Dec-62 |
#71 |
SK
1874 withdrawn Dec-62 |
|
#72 |
SK
1883 withdrawn 13-Jun-64 |
|
#73 |
SK
1914 to Loose (Bertram Mills train) Jun-64 |
|
#74 |
CK
5727 became SK 1727 Sep-64 |
|
#75 |
SK
1822 to Loose (Bertram Mills train) Jun-64 |
|
#76 |
SK 1852
withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
#77 |
SK
1192 withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
#78 |
SK
1890 withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
#79 |
SK
1727withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
#80 |
SK
34 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
#81 |
CK
5884 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
#82 |
CK 5868
withdrawn Jan-68 |
|
#83 |
SK
35 withdrawn Jul-67 |
|
#84 |
SK
36 withdrawn Apr-67 |
|
#85 |
982 |
SK 1855
withdrawn Dec-62 |
#86 |
SK
1829 withdrawn Nov-64 |
|
#87 |
SK
1853 withdrawn May-64 |
|
#88 |
CK
5728 became SK 1728 Sep-64 |
|
#89 |
CK
5808 withdrawn May-67 |
|
#90 |
SK 1834
withdrawn May-64 |
|
#91 |
SK
1864 withdrawn Dec-63 |
|
#92 |
983 |
SK
1270 withdrawn Dec-62 |
#93 |
SK
1274 withdrawn Dec-62 |
|
#94 |
SK
1824 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
#95 |
SK
1276 withdrawn Apr-64 |
|
#96 |
CK
5869 withdrawn Oct-67 |
|
#97 |
SK
1273 withdrawn Dec-63 |
|
#98 |
SK
1843 withdrawn Dec-63 |
|
#99 |
984 |
SK 1888 withdrawn Dec-62 |
#100 |
SK 1857 withdrawn Dec-62. |
|
#101 |
BSK 2883 withdrawn Dec-63 |
|
#102 |
SK 1810 withdrawn Dec-63 |
|
#103 |
CK 5730 became SK 1730 Apr-64 |
|
#104 |
SK 1835 withdrawn 13-Jun-64 |
|
#105 |
SK 1194 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
#106 |
SK 1863 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
#107 |
SK 1917 withdrawn Oct-64 |
|
#108 |
BSK 2861 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
#109 |
SK 1730 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
#110 |
SK 38 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
#111 |
CK 5897 withdrawn Aug-67 |
|
#112 |
CK 5872 withdrawn Sep-67 |
|
#113 |
SK 40 withdrawn 16-Jul-66 |
|
#114 |
SK 41 withdrawn Jul-67 |
‘Multidoor’ compartment side of BTK no.2870 from
set 977 at Bournemouth West. Note the
vertical ‘repair’ beading added to the body panels. (Monday, 5th
September 1960) © A.E. West (Mike King Collection) |
Originally outshopped in post-war SR ‘Malachite’ green; only
four 59’ multidoor sets did not receive Crimson Lake & Cream (CLC)
livery; these being sets nos. 969, 971, 974 and 977.
But CLC was not to last and many were rapidly repainted into
BR(S) green way before their ‘due date’ (often when they had been scheduled for
varnishing on the 2˝-yearly varnishing cycle or even when in works receiving
attention). Such was the impetus to repaint into green most Bulleid
59’ multidoor coaches only carried CLC livery for two to three years. Just one
set managed forty-nine months in CLC; another was repainted after just
seventeen months.
The last multidoor sets to be outshopped in CLC livery from SR
‘Malachite’ were in 1956 (nos.965, 966 & 975 in March and 978 & 979 in
April) with the first set (no.974) into BR(S) green from SR ‘Malachite’ in July
1956. The first of the CLC-liveried sets outshopped into BR(S) green took place
in June 1957. Most sets received BR(S) green in 1957; two in 1958 and just one
set kept CLC livery into January 1959; this also being the last year for Maunsell corridor sets in CLC livery.
With few exceptions, fixed coaching sets were normally varnished
/painted as a set and whilst in service would be subject to the same degree on
weathering (etc). Accordingly, sets were often reasonably consistent in their
condition. However, where sets were strengthened (for example for summer
services) the additional coaches may vary in appearance. Although rare, some
sets included mixed green /CLC stock and latterly at least one green Mk1
three-car set (no.551) was strengthened in September 1963 with ex-WR lined
maroon stock until they could be repainted green.
There is
much debate on SR ‘Malachite’ green and the somewhat limited number of colour
photographs from that period cannot necessarily be relied upon (notwithstanding
weathering /varnishing /fade /any differences in colour of paint batches etc.).
In this respect Michael Welch’s book ‘Southern Coaches in Colour’ is worth
referring to as it yields significant colour and tonal differences in
photographs of both ‘BR green’ and crimson lake coaches. Colour-shade does
matter but is a difficult subject.
Following nationalisation, the coach numbers had an ‘S’ prefix
thence ‘S’ suffix added. However, the ‘Southern’ branding wasn’t necessarily
removed (at least) until re-varnishing took place. The 1st /3rd
numbering usually remained in place on SR malachite liveried coaches (by this
time only select boat trains conveyed 2nd class passengers) until 2nd class was abolished on Sunday 3rd
June 1956 (after when 3rd class was renamed 2nd class).
Accordingly, the number ‘3’ was usually removed upon re-varnishing /re-painting
unless the coach had cause to visit Lancing Works. On the SR-liveried
‘multidoor’ composites the number ‘1’ is not located centrally on the door;
photographic evidence supports this positioning.
Set 983 was amongst the last BR(S) coaching sets to receive
Crimson Lake & Cream livery being outshopped 14th-19th June 1956.
Set No. |
SR ‘Malachite’ |
Outshopped CLC |
Outshopped |
963 |
14-Mar-46 |
22-Oct-53 |
22-Aug-57 |
964 |
14-Mar-46 |
18-May-53 |
19-Jun-57 |
965 |
3-Mar-46 |
16-Mar-56 |
24-Jun-58 |
966 |
20-Mar-46 |
6-Mar-56 |
23-Dec-57 |
967 |
21-Feb-46 |
25-Mar-55 |
4-Sep-57 |
968 |
15-Feb-46 |
11-Dec-53 |
23-Jul-57 |
969 |
27-Mar-46 |
No |
10-May-57 |
970 |
11-Mar-46 |
2-Dec-55 |
10-Sep-59 |
971 |
26-Feb-46 |
No |
5-Feb-57 |
972 |
5-Mar-46 |
27-Jul-54 |
27-Feb-58 |
973 |
11-Mar-46 |
29-Aug-55 |
27-Nov-57 |
974 |
27-Mar-46 |
No |
11-Jul-56 |
975 |
20-Mar-46 |
21-Mar-56 |
17-Dec-57 |
976 |
20-Mar-46 |
25-Jul-55 |
12-Nov-57 |
977 |
26-Feb-46 |
No |
2-Oct-57 |
978 |
8-Apr-46 |
26-Apr-56 |
Sep-58+ |
979 |
15-feb-46 |
5-Apr-56 |
18-Sep-57 |
980 |
12-Apr-46 |
26-Jul-55 |
22-Jan-59 |
981 |
14-Jun-46 |
27-Jul-55 |
15-May-58 |
982 |
23-Jun-46 |
15-Apr-55 |
10-Jul-57 |
983 |