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Passenger Carrying Coaches

Bulleid’s ‘Multidoor’ Stock
(Sets 963 to 980 & 981 to 984)

 

‘Mulitdoor’ compartment side of ex-works 59’ CK no.5726 from set  980.

© British Railways (Mike King Collection)

 

59’ Sets 963 to 980

Following Bulleid’s succession to Maunsell on the Southern Railway, designs were started in 1938 for new coaching stock on the South Western Main Line from Waterloo to Bournemouth – Weymouth and Salisbury – Exeter routes. Although design work commenced in 1938 the order couldn’t be place until 1944 for eighteen number three-coach restriction ‘4’ sets (numbered 963 to 980) built on Maunsell-type 59ft underframes.

These underframes had been fabricated in 1940 but when WW2 stopped the construction of the coach bodies the underframes were placed into store which sadly set them up for corrosion in later life. The BTK coaches (nos.2841 to 2876) seated 40 no. 3rd class passengers; the CK coaches (nos.5709 to 5726) seated 24 no. 1st class and 24 no. 3rd class passengers.

Three-car sets numbered 963 to 980 were formed:

BTK (to Diagram 2121)

CK (to Diagram 2316)

BTK (to Diagram 2121)

In 1941 Bullied had introduced a bodyside profile on 4 SUB unit no.4101 featuring a new profile (with a continuous curve from floor level) and these coaches adopted that style. On the doors they also featured the characteristic lozenge-shaped toplights above the droplights; a particular useful feature for looking out when standing ready to leave the coach (the bodyside curve of the coach would not permit a deeper /taller droplight).

With doors for each compartment on the non-corridor side (following Maunsell’s coach-layout practice) they became known as ‘multidoor’ coaches; particularly after the later designs of Bulleid coaches employing saloons and compartments with vestibules entered service. This saloon /vestibule stock offered greater passenger comfort and ‘multidoor’ stock quickly found less favour with express services.

In 2019 Hornby produced models of multidoor stock; the modelling of which is covered towards the end of this webpage.

 

Corridor side of ex-works 59’ CK no.5726 from set  980.

© British Railways (Mike King Collection)

 

Original 59’ Formations

The date identified for each 59’ set formation (unless stated otherwise) is the outshopping of the last vehicle needed to form each set; this being the CK coaches.

Where these sets were subsequently strengthened the strengthening vehicles /details are shew in the section titled ‘59’ Set Strengthening’; only strengthening dates and subsequent reformation dates are provided here.

 

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BTK
sent to

CK
No.

CK
sent to

BTK
No.

BTK
sent to

963

14-Mar-46

2841#1

Cond‡2
(19-Dec-63)

5709

Cond‡1
(19-Dec-63)

2842#1

Cond‡1
(19-Dec-63)

Cond.

19-Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

964

14-Mar-46

2843#1

Wdn
(12-Oct-66)

5710

Wdn
(12-Oct-66)

2844#1

Wdn
(12-Oct-66)

Strengthened

Jan-64

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed#

Feb-65

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdn

12-Oct-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

965

5-Mar-46

2845#3

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5711

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

2846#3

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Wdn

28-Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

966

20-Mar-46

2847#3

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5712

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

2848#3

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Wdn

28-Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

967

21-Feb-46

2849‡4

Wdn
(Oct-67)

5713

Wdn
(Dec-63)

2850‡4

Wdn
(6-Nov-65)

Reformed

Jun-64

"

"

5719
(ex.973)

Wdn
(Jul-67)

"

"

Strengthened

Jun-64

"

"

"

"

"

"

Disb

c.Sep-65

 

 

 

 

 

 

968

15-Feb-46

2851‡4

Wdn
(Jul-67)

5714

Wdn
(Aug-67)

2852‡4

Wdn
(Dec-67)

Strengthened

Jun-64

"

"

"

"

"

"

Disb

c.Jun-67

 

 

 

 

 

 

969

27-Mar-46

2853‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5715

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

2854‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

970

11-Mar-46

2855‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5716

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

2856‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

971

26-Feb-46

2857‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5717

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

2858‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

972

5-Mar-46

2859‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5718

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

2860‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

973

11-Mar-46

2861‡4

984
(Jun-64)

5719

967
(Jun-64)

2862‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Strengthened

Aug-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Disb

c.Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

974

27-Mar-46

2863‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63

5720

Wdn
(28-Dec-63

2864‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63

Strengthened

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Disb.

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

975

31-Dec-45

2865‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63

5721

Wdn
(28-Dec-63

2866‡4

Wdn
(28-Dec-63

Strengthened

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

976

20-Mar-46

2867‡5

Wdn
(Jul-67)

5722

Wdn
(Jan-68)

2868‡5

Wdn
(Sep-67)

Strengthened

Oct-62

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed#

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed#

Jun-64

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdn

Jun-67

 

 

 

 

 

 

977

19-Jan-46

2869‡5

Wdn
(Dec-63)

5723

Wdn
(Dec-63)

2870‡5

Wdn
(Dec-63)

Strengthened

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

978

8-Apr-46

2871‡6

Wdn
(Dec-63)

5724

Wdn
(Dec-63)

2872‡6

Wdn
(Dec-63)

Strengthened

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

979

15-Feb-46

2873‡6

Wdn
(Dec-63)

5725

Wdn
(Dec-63)

2874‡6

Wdn
(Dec-63)

Strengthened

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdn

by Dec-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

980

12-Apr-46

2875‡7

Wdn
(Jul-67)

5726

Wdn
(Jul-66)

2876‡7

Wdn
(Jul-66)

Strengthened

Jun-62

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed#

Jun-64

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed#

Feb-65

"

"

"

"

"

"

Disb

c.Jun-66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note

Set Notes

#

Strengthened set reformed around original set’s coaches.

‡1

Outshopped new 20-Nov-45

‡3

Broken up at Eastleigh 1-Feb-64

‡3

Outshopped new 1-Dec-45

‡4

Outshopped new 31-Dec-45

‡5

Outshopped new 19-Jan-46

‡6

Outshopped new 31-Jan-46

‡7

Outshopped new 6-Feb-46

Cond.

Condemned

Disb.

Disbanded

Wdn.

Withdrawn

 

 

Corridor side of ex-works 59’ BTK no.2876 from set  980.

© British Railways (Mike King Collection)

 

59’ Set Strengthening

Whilst withdrawals started in December 1963 (with set nos.963, 965, 966, 969, 970, 971, 972, 982, 983 & 984; later followed by 974, 975, 977, 978 and 979) from June 1962-on set nos. 964, 967, 968, 973, 974, 975, 976, 979 and 980 were strengthened up to eight-coaches with the following information obtained from both the Lancing Works and Waterloo Record Cards for each set.

 

Set

Coach

Number

Ex. Set

Date.

Diag. No.

964
Jan-64 to Oct-64
(Note1)

BSK

2843

964

New

2121 (B)

SK

1829 #10

982

Jun-64

2001 (M)

SK

1728

982

Jun-64

2317 (B)

CK

5710

964

New

2316 (B)

CK

5907

433

Jun-64

2319 (B)

SK

1837 #11

433

Jun-64

2001 (M) 

SK

1235 #12

Loose

Jun-64

2001 (M)

BSK

2844

964

New

2121 (B)

964
Feb-65 to Oct-66
(Wdn)

BSK

2843

964

New

2121 (B)

SK

31 #13

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

SK

1728 #14

982

Jun-64

2317 (B)

CK

5710

964

New

2316 (B)

CK

5907 #15

Loose

Jun-64

2319 (B)

SK

90 #16

474

Feb-65

2019 (B)

SK

91 #17

474

Feb-65

2019 (B)

BSK

2844

964

New

2121 (B)

967
Dec-63 to Jun-64
 (Note2)

BSK

2849

967

New

2121 (B)

CK

5711 #18

967

New

2316 (B)

(CK)

(5719)

(973)

(Jun-64)

(2316 (B)

BSK

2850

967

New

2121 (B)

967
Jun-64 to Nov-65
(Note3)

BSK

2849

967

New

2121 (B)

SK

47 ‡19

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

SK

1932 ‡20

823

Jun-64

2019 (B)

CK

5719 ‡21

973

Jun-64

2316 (B)

CK

5900 ‡22

973

Jun-64

2318 (B)

SK

1933 ‡23

823

Jun-64

2019 (B)

SK

1934 ‡24

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

BSK

2850

967

New

2121 (B)

968
Jun-64 to Jun-67
(Wdn)

BSK

2851

968

New

2121 (B)

SK

51 ‡25

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

SK

52 ‡26

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

CK

5714

968

New

2316 (B)

CK

5885 ‡27

271

Jun-64

2318 (B)

SK

53 ‡28

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

SK

55 ‡29

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

BSK

2852

968

New

2121 (B)

973
Jun-63 to Dec-63
(Disb)

BSK

2861

973

New

2121 (B)

SK

1206 ‡30

Loose

Jun-63

2001 (M)

SK

1863 ‡31

Loose

Jun-63

2008 (M)

CK

5900 ‡32

961

Jun-63

2316 (B

CK

5719

973

New

2316 (B)

SK

1898 ‡33

Loose

Jun-63

2008 (M)

SK

1915 ‡34

Loose

Jun-63

2011 (M)

BSK

2862

973

New

2121 (B)

974
Jun-63 to Dec-63
(Disb)

BSK

2863

974

New

2121 (B)

SK

1211 ‡35

Loose

Jun-63

2001 (M)

CK

5720

974

New

2316 (B)

SK

1865 ‡36

Loose

Jun-63

2008 (M)

SK

1887 ‡37

249

Jun-63

2008 (M)

BSK

2864

974

New

2121 (B)

975
Jun-63 to Dec-63
(Wdn)

BSK

2865

975

New

2121 (B)

SK

1212 ‡38

Loose

Jun-63

2001 (M)

CK

5721

975

New

2316 (B)

SK

1268 ‡39

Loose

Jun-63

2008 (M)

SK

1813 ‡40

956

Jun-63

2001Ϯ (M)

BSK

2866

975

New

2121 (B)

976
Oct-62 to Jun-63

BSK

2867

976

New

2121 (B)

SK

1225

Loose

Oct-62

2008 (M)

CK

5722

976

New

2316 (B)

BSK

2868

976

New

2121 (B)

976
Jun-63 to Jun-64

BSK

2867

976

New

2121 (B)

SK

1225 ‡41

Loose

Oct-62

2008 (M)

CK

5722

976

New

2316 (B)

SO

----

Loose

Jun-63

----

SO

----

Loose

Jun-63

----

BSK

2868

976

New

2121 (B)

976
Jun-64 to Jun-67
(Wdn)

BSK

2867

976

New

2121 (B)

SK

46 ‡42

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

SK

48 ‡43

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

CK

5722

976

New

2316 (B)

CK

5751 ‡44

770

Jun-64

2315 (B)

SK

49 ‡45

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

SK

39 ‡46

Loose

Jun-64

2019 (B)

BSK

2868

976

New

2121 (B)

977
Jun-63 to Dec-63
(Wdn)

BSK

2869

977

New

2121 (B)

SK

----

----

Jun-63

----

CK

5723

977

New

2316 (B)

BSK

2870

977

New

2121 (B)

978
Apr-63 to Dec-63

(Wdn)

BSK

2871

978

New

2121 (B)

SK

----

----

Apr-63

----

SK

----

----

Apr-63

----

CK

5806 ‡47

436

Apr-63

2318 (B)

CK

5724

978

New

2316 (B)

SK

----

----

Apr-63

----

SK

----

----

Apr-63

----

BSK

2872

978

New

2121 (B)

979
Jun-63 to Dec-63
(Wdn)

BSK

2873

979

New

2121 (B)

SK

----

----

Jun-63

----

SK

----

----

Jun-63

----

CK

5876 ‡48

266

Jun-63

2318 (B)

CK

5725

979

New

2316 (B)

SK

----

----

Jun-63

----

SK

----

----

Jun-63

----

BSK

2874

979

New

2121 (B)

980
Jun-62 to Jun-64

BSK

2875

980

New

2121 (B)

SK

1803 ‡49

 

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1804 ‡50

 

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

CK

5874

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5726

980

New

2316 (B)

SK

1805 ‡51

 

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1808 ‡52

 

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

BSK

2876

980

New

2121 (B)

980
Jun-64 to Feb-65

BSK

2875

980

New

2121 (B)

SK

1206 ‡53

973

Jun-64

2008 (M)

SK

1729

883

Jun-64

2317 (B)

CK

5874

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5726

980

New

2316 (B)

SK

1236 ‡54

 

Jun-64

2008 (M)

SK

1208 ‡55

 

Jun-64

2008 (M)

BSK

2876

980

New

2121 (B)

980
Feb-65 to Jun-66
(Disb)

BSK

2875

980

New

2121 (B)

SK

85 ‡56

474

Feb-65

2019 (B)

SK

1729 ‡57

983

Jun-64

2317 (B)

CK

5874 ‡58

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5726

980

New

2316 (B)

SK

86 ‡59

474

Feb-65

2019 (B)

SK

87 ‡60

474

Feb-65

2019 (B)

BSK

2876

980

New

2121 (B)

 

Note

Set

Strengthening Notes

B

 

Bullied coach

M

 

Maunsell coach

Ϯ

 

Two lavatory-vents

Note1

964

Set 964 possibly OOU Oct-64 to Feb-65

Note2

967

Set 967 CK 5711 withdrawn Dec-63 but not replaced with 59’ 5719 (ex. disb.973) until Jun-64.

Note3

967

Set 967 possibly OOU until Jun-64 reformation and strengthening when 59’ CK 5719 (ex. 973) added to the set along with strengthening with 64’ CK 5900 (ex.961) and 64’ SK coaches 1932, 1933 & 1934 (ex. Loose).

‡10

964

SK 1829 withdrawn Oct-64

‡11

SK 1837 withdrawn Nov-64

‡12

SK 1235 withdrawn Nov-64

‡13

SK 31 withdrawn Jun-67

‡14

SK 1728 (ex. CK 5728 set 982) withdrawn Aug-66

‡15

CK 5907 withdrawn Jan-68

‡16

SK 90 withdrawn Aug-67

‡17

SK 91 withdrawn Jul-67

‡18

967

CK 5711 withdrawn Dec-63 (orig. CK for set 967).

‡19

SK 47 withdrawn Aug-67

‡20

SK 1932 withdrawn Aug-67

‡21

CK 5719 (ex. set 973) withdrawn Jul-67

‡22

CK 5900 withdrawn Jul-67

‡23

SK 1933 withdrawn Dec-67

‡24

SK 1934 withdrawn May-68

‡25

968

SK 51 withdrawn Jun-67

‡26

SK 52 withdrawn Nov-67

‡27

CK 5885 withdrawn Jul-67

‡28

SK 53 withdrawn Jul-67

‡29

SK 55 withdrawn Jul-67

‡30

973

SK 1206 withdrawn Nov-64

‡31

SK 1863 withdrawn Nov-64

‡32

CK 5900 to set 967 Jun-64

‡33

SK 1898 withdrawn Jun-64

‡34

SK 1915 withdrawn Jun-64

‡35

974

SK 1211 withdrawn Oct-64

‡36

SK 1865 withdrawn Jun-64

‡37

SK 1887 withdrawn Oct-64

‡38

975

SK 1212 withdrawn Jul-65

‡39

SK 1268 withdrawn May-64

‡40

SK 1813 withdrawn Jul-64

‡41

976

SK 1225 withdrawn 18-Apr-64

‡42

SK 46 withdrawn Jul-67

‡43

SK 48 withdrawn Aug-67

‡44

CK 5751 (Prototype seven-comp.) withdrawn Jul-67

‡45

SK 49 withdrawn Jul-67

‡46

SK 39 withdrawn Dec-67

‡47

978

CK 5806 withdrawn 16-May-64

‡48

979

CK 5876 withdrawn 16-May-64

‡49

980

SK 1803 withdrawn Dec-63

‡50

SK 1804 withdrawn Dec-62

‡51

SK 1805 withdrawn 16-May-64

‡52

SK 1808 to Loose (Bertram Mills train) date XXX

‡53

SK 1206 withdrawn Oct-64

‡54

SK 1236 withdrawn Oct-64

‡55

SK 1208 withdrawn Oct-64

‡56

SK 85 withdrawn Oct-67

‡57

SK 1729 (ex. CK 5729 set 983) withdrawn Sep-66

‡58

CK 5874 withdrawn Jul-67

‡59

SK 86 withdrawn Jul-67

‡60

SK 87 withdrawn Aug-67

Cond.

 

Condemned

Disb.

 

Disbanded

OOU

 

Out of Use

Wdn.

 

Withdrawn

 

 

 

Southern liveried CK 5730 in set 984 at Clapham Yard

(Monday, 29th July 1946)

© Dennis Cullum (Mike King Collection)

 

64’ Sets 981 to 984

During 1946 a further four Bulleid ‘multidoor’ sets were introduced; these being set numbers 981 & 982 - June 1946 and 983 & 984 – July 1946. However, these sets were built on the ‘new’ 64’ underframes; this being adopted as the standard length for Southern coaching stock. As a consequence, the BTK coaches (nos. 2877 to 2884) had six compartments (48 no. 3rd class seats with a slightly smaller brake van) whilst the CK coaches (nos. 5727 to 5730) had an additional third-class compartment (24 no. 1st /32 no. 3rd class seats).

Three-car sets 981 to 984 were formed:

BTK (to Diagram 2122)

CK (to Diagram 2317)

BTK (to Diagram 2122)

The 64’ Bulleid ‘multidoor’ stock initially spend some time on Brighton /Portsmouth – Bristol services before being concentrated back on SW main line workings.

Where these sets were subsequently strengthened the strengthening vehicles /details are shew in the section titled ‘64’ Set Strengthening’; only strengthening dates and subsequent reformation dates are provided here.

 

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BTK
sent to

CK
No.

CK (as SK)
sent to

BTK
No.

BTK
sent to

981

14-Jun-46

2877

Wdn
(Aug-67)

5727

981
(Sep-64)

2878

Wdn
(Jul-67)

Strengthened

Jun-62

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed

Jun-63

"

"

5884
(ex.80)

 

"

"

Reformed

Jun-64

"

"

"

 

"

"

Reformed

Feb-65

"

"

"

 

"

"

Wdl

c.Jun-67

 

 

 

 

 

 

982

23-Jun-46

2879

Wdn
(Dec-63)

5728

964
(Sep-64)

2880

Wdn
(Dec-63)

Strengthened

Jun-62

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed

May-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Wdl

c.Sep-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

983

4-Jul-46

2881

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

5729

980
(Aug-64)

2882

Wdn
(28-Dec-63)

Strengthened

Jun-62

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Disb

c.Sep-63

 

 

 

 

 

 

984

25-Jul-46

2883

Wdn
(Dec-63)

5730

984
(Apr-64)

2884

Wdn
(Oct-67)

Strengthened

Jun-62

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed

Jun-63

"

"

"

"

"

"

Reformed

Jun-64

2861
(ex.973)

 

5897
(ex.Loose)

 

"

"

Reformed

Feb-65

"

 

"

 

"

"

Wdl

c.Jun-67

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note

Set Notes

#

Strengthened set reformed around original set’s coaches.

Cond.

Condemned

Disb.

Disbanded

Wdl.

Withdrawal (approximate date believed set taken out of service)

 

 

 

BR(S) Green liveried BSK 2884 in strengthened set 984 at Basingstoke. Whilst the adjacent Maunsell SK is probably 1857, the number of the locomotive is unknown.

(Friday, 8th June 1962)

© Peter H. Swift (Mike King Collection)

 

CK Reclassifications

In 1964 all four 64’ multidoor CK coachers were reclassified SK and renumbered; two of these (1728 & 1729) were placed into other sets:

 

CK
No.

Set
No.

Date
renum.

SK
No.

Set
No.

Date
Wdn

5727

981

Sep-64

1727

981

Aug-67

5728

982

Sep-64

1728

964

Aug-66

5729

983

Aug-64

1729

980

Sep-66

5730

984

Apr 64

1730

984

Aug-67

 

 

 

BR(S) Green liveried CK 2884 in recently-strengthened set 984 at Basingstoke. Just visible is Bulleid CK 5872 and (with its two lavatory window vents) the adjacent Maunsell coach appears to be SK 1810 (many Maunsell coaches were used for set-strengthening prior to their withdrawal).

(Friday, 8th June 1962)

© Peter H. Swift (Mike King Collection)

 

64’ Set Strengthening

Towards the end of their working life all four 64’ sets were strengthened to eight-car using Bulleid and Maunsell coaches with the following information obtained from both the Lancing Works and Waterloo Record Cards for each set. The dates beneath each set indicate the formation of that set until withdrawal of its coaches; the set probably having previously been taken out of service.

NB - It should be noted that there are some discrepancies between these official Record Card and Carriage Working Notice formations and contemporary observations made by the Southern Carriage & Wagon Society (a group of rolling stock enthusiasts led by Laurie Mack from 1959 to about 1968).

 

Set

Coach

Number

Ex. Set

Date.

Diag. No.

981
Jun-62

BSK

2877

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

SK

1858 ‡70

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

SK

1874 ‡71

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

CK

5868

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5727

981

14-Jun-46

2317 (B)

SK

1822

Loose

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1890

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

BSK

2878

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

981
Jun-63 to Jun-64

BSK

2877

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

SK

1883 ‡72

Loose

Jun-63

2008 (M)

SK

1914 ‡73

Loose

Jun-63

2011 (M)

CK

5868

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5727 ‡74

981

14-Jun-46

2317 (B)

SK

1822 ‡75

Loose

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1890

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

BSK

2878

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

981
Jun-64 to Sep-64

BSK

2877

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

SK

1727

981

Jun-64

2317 (B)

SK

1852 ‡76

Loose

Jun-64

2008 (M)

CK

5884

80

Jun-64

2318 (B)

CK

5868

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

1192 ‡77

955

Jun-64

2001 (M)

SK

1890 ‡78

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

BSK

2878

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

981
Feb-65 to Jun-67
(Wdn)
(Note4)

BSK

2877

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

SK

1727 ‡79

981

Jun-64

2317 (B)

SK

34 ‡80

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

CK

5884 ‡81

80

Jun-64

2318 (B)

CK

5868 ‡82

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

35 ‡83

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

SK

36 ‡84

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

BSK

2878

981

14-Jun-46

2122 (B)

982
Jun-62 to May-63
(Note 4)

BSK

2879

982

23-Jun-46

2122 (B)

SK

1829

269

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1855 ‡85

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

CK

5728

982

23-Jun-46

2317 (B)

CK

5808

239

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

1834

Loose

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1864

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

BSK

2880

982

23-Jun-46

2122 (B)

982
May-63 to Dec-63
(Wdn)

BSK

2879

982

23-Jun-46

2122 (B)

SK

1829 ‡86

269

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1853 ‡87

Loose

May-63

2008 (M)

CK

5728 ‡88

982

23-Jun-46

2317 (B)

CK

5808 ‡89

239

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

1834 ‡90

Loose

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1864 ‡91

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

BSK

2880

982

23-Jun-46

2122 (B)

983
Jun-62 to Dec-62
(Disb)

BSK

2881

983

4-Jul-46

2122 (B)

SK

1270 ‡92

Loose

Jun-62

2001 (M)

SK

1276

Loose

Jun-62

2001 (M)

CK

5869

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5729

983

4-Jul-46

2317 (B)

SK

1273

Loose

Jun-62

2001 (M)

SK

1274 ‡93

Loose

Jun-62

2001 (M)

BSK

2882

983

4-Jul-46

2122 (B)

983
Jun-63 to Dec-63
(Disb)

BSK

2881

983

4-Jul-46

2122 (B)

SK

1824 ‡94

960

Jun-63

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1276 ‡95

Loose

Jun-62

2001 (M)

CK

5869 ‡96

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

CK

5729

983

4-Jul-46

2317 (B)

SK

1273 ‡97

Loose

Jun-62

2001 (M)

SK

1843 ‡98

Loose

Jun-63

2001Ϯ (M)

BSK

2882

983

4-Jul-46

2122 (B)

984
Jun-62 to Dec-62
(Note 5)

BSK

2883

984

25-Jul-46

2122 (B)

SK

1888 ‡99

Loose

Jun-62

2008 (M)

SK

1810

Loose

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

CK

5730

984

25-Jul-46

2317 (B)

CK

5872

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

1835

204

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1857 ‡100

803

Jun-62

2008 (M)

BSK

2884

984

25-Jul-46

2122 (B)

984
Jun-63 to Dec-63

BSK

2883 ‡101

984

25-Jul-46

2122 (B)

SK

1810 ‡102

Loose

Jun-63

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1194

Loose

Jun-63

2001 (M)

CK

5730 ‡103

984

25-Jul-46

2317 (B)

CK

5872

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

1835 ‡104

204

Jun-62

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1917

Loose

Jun-63

2011 (M)

BSK

2884

984

25-Jul-46

2122 (B)

984
Jun-64 to Oct-64

BSK

2861

973

Jun-64

2121 (B)

SK

1730

984

25-Jul-46

2317 (B)

SK

1194 ‡105

Loose

Jun-63

2001 (M)

CK

5897

Loose

Jun-64

2318 (B)

CK

5872

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

1863 ‡106

973

Jun-64

2001Ϯ (M)

SK

1917 ‡107

Loose

Jun-63

2011 (M)

BSK

2884

984

25-Jul-46

2122 (B)

984
Feb-65 to Aug-67
(Wdn)

BSK

2861 ‡108

973

Jun-64

2121 (B)

SK

1730 ‡109

984

25-Jul-46

2317 (B)

SK

38 ‡110

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

CK

5897 ‡111

Loose

Jun-64

2318 (B)

CK

5872 ‡112

Loose

Jun-62

2318 (B)

SK

40 ‡113

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

SK

41 ‡114

Loose

Feb-65

2019 (B)

BSK

2884

984

25-Jul-46

2122 (B)

 

Note

Set

Strengthening Notes

B

 

Bullied coach

M

 

Maunsell coach

Ϯ

 

Two lavatory-vents

Note 4

982

Carriage Working Notice for Jun-62 identifies SK 1890 (Loose to set 981) in formation instead of SK 1864.

Note 5

984

Carriage Working Notice for Jun-62 identifies SK 1843 (Loose to set 983) in formation instead of SK 1857.

#70

981

SK 1858 withdrawn Dec-62

#71

SK 1874 withdrawn Dec-62

#72

SK 1883 withdrawn 13-Jun-64

#73

SK 1914 to Loose (Bertram Mills train) Jun-64

#74

CK 5727 became SK 1727 Sep-64

#75

SK 1822 to Loose (Bertram Mills train) Jun-64

#76

SK 1852 withdrawn Nov-64

#77

SK 1192 withdrawn Nov-64

#78

SK 1890 withdrawn Nov-64

#79

SK 1727withdrawn Aug-67

#80

SK 34 withdrawn Jul-67

#81

CK 5884 withdrawn Aug-67

#82

CK 5868 withdrawn Jan-68

#83

SK 35 withdrawn Jul-67

#84

SK 36 withdrawn Apr-67

#85

982

SK 1855 withdrawn Dec-62

#86

SK 1829 withdrawn Nov-64

#87

SK 1853 withdrawn May-64

#88

CK 5728 became SK 1728 Sep-64

#89

CK 5808 withdrawn May-67

#90

SK 1834 withdrawn May-64

#91

SK 1864 withdrawn Dec-63

#92

983

SK 1270 withdrawn Dec-62

#93

SK 1274 withdrawn Dec-62

#94

SK 1824 withdrawn Oct-64

#95

SK 1276 withdrawn Apr-64

#96

CK 5869 withdrawn Oct-67

#97

SK 1273 withdrawn Dec-63

#98

SK 1843 withdrawn Dec-63

#99

984

SK 1888 withdrawn Dec-62

#100

SK 1857 withdrawn Dec-62.

#101

BSK 2883 withdrawn Dec-63

#102

SK 1810 withdrawn Dec-63

#103

CK 5730 became SK 1730 Apr-64

#104

SK 1835 withdrawn 13-Jun-64

#105

SK 1194 withdrawn Oct-64

#106

SK 1863 withdrawn Oct-64

#107

SK 1917 withdrawn Oct-64

#108

BSK 2861 withdrawn Aug-67

#109

SK 1730 withdrawn Aug-67

#110

SK 38 withdrawn Aug-67

#111

CK 5897 withdrawn Aug-67

#112

CK 5872 withdrawn Sep-67

#113

SK 40 withdrawn 16-Jul-66

#114

SK 41 withdrawn Jul-67

 

 

 

‘Multidoor’ compartment side of BTK no.2870 from set  977 at Bournemouth West. Note the vertical ‘repair’ beading added to the body panels.

 (Monday, 5th September 1960)

© A.E. West (Mike King Collection)

 

‘Multidoor’ Stock Liveries

Originally outshopped in post-war SR ‘Malachite’ green; only four 59’ multidoor sets did not receive Crimson Lake & Cream (CLC) livery; these being sets nos. 969, 971, 974 and 977.

But CLC was not to last and many were rapidly repainted into BR(S) green way before their ‘due date’ (often when they had been scheduled for varnishing on the 2½-yearly varnishing cycle or even when in works receiving attention). Such was the impetus to repaint into green most Bulleid 59’ multidoor coaches only carried CLC livery for two to three years. Just one set managed forty-nine months in CLC; another was repainted after just seventeen months.

The last multidoor sets to be outshopped in CLC livery from SR ‘Malachite’ were in 1956 (nos.965, 966 & 975 in March and 978 & 979 in April) with the first set (no.974) into BR(S) green from SR ‘Malachite’ in July 1956. The first of the CLC-liveried sets outshopped into BR(S) green took place in June 1957. Most sets received BR(S) green in 1957; two in 1958 and just one set kept CLC livery into January 1959; this also being the last year for Maunsell corridor sets in CLC livery.

With few exceptions, fixed coaching sets were normally varnished /painted as a set and whilst in service would be subject to the same degree on weathering (etc). Accordingly, sets were often reasonably consistent in their condition. However, where sets were strengthened (for example for summer services) the additional coaches may vary in appearance. Although rare, some sets included mixed green /CLC stock and latterly at least one green Mk1 three-car set (no.551) was strengthened in September 1963 with ex-WR lined maroon stock until they could be repainted green.

There is much debate on SR ‘Malachite’ green and the somewhat limited number of colour photographs from that period cannot necessarily be relied upon (notwithstanding weathering /varnishing /fade /any differences in colour of paint batches etc.). In this respect Michael Welch’s book ‘Southern Coaches in Colour’ is worth referring to as it yields significant colour and tonal differences in photographs of both ‘BR green’ and crimson lake coaches. Colour-shade does matter but is a difficult subject.

Following nationalisation, the coach numbers had an ‘S’ prefix thence ‘S’ suffix added. However, the ‘Southern’ branding wasn’t necessarily removed (at least) until re-varnishing took place. The 1st /3rd numbering usually remained in place on SR malachite liveried coaches (by this time only select boat trains conveyed 2nd class passengers) until 2nd class was abolished on Sunday 3rd June 1956 (after when 3rd class was renamed 2nd class). Accordingly, the number ‘3’ was usually removed upon re-varnishing /re-painting unless the coach had cause to visit Lancing Works. On the SR-liveried ‘multidoor’ composites the number ‘1’ is not located centrally on the door; photographic evidence supports this positioning.

Set 983 was amongst the last BR(S) coaching sets to receive Crimson Lake & Cream livery being outshopped 14th-19th June 1956.

 

Set No.

SR ‘Malachite’
Green (New)

Outshopped CLC
(Crimson Lake & Cream)

Outshopped
BR(S) Green

963

14-Mar-46

22-Oct-53

22-Aug-57

964

14-Mar-46

18-May-53

19-Jun-57

965

3-Mar-46

16-Mar-56

24-Jun-58

966

20-Mar-46

6-Mar-56

23-Dec-57

967

21-Feb-46

25-Mar-55

4-Sep-57

968

15-Feb-46

11-Dec-53

23-Jul-57

969

27-Mar-46

No

10-May-57

970

11-Mar-46

2-Dec-55

10-Sep-59

971

26-Feb-46

No

5-Feb-57

972

5-Mar-46

27-Jul-54

27-Feb-58

973

11-Mar-46

29-Aug-55

27-Nov-57

974

27-Mar-46

No

11-Jul-56

975

20-Mar-46

21-Mar-56

17-Dec-57

976

20-Mar-46

25-Jul-55

12-Nov-57

977

26-Feb-46

No

2-Oct-57

978

8-Apr-46

26-Apr-56

Sep-58+

979

15-feb-46

5-Apr-56

18-Sep-57

980

12-Apr-46

26-Jul-55

22-Jan-59

981

14-Jun-46

27-Jul-55

15-May-58

982

23-Jun-46

15-Apr-55

10-Jul-57

983

4-Jul-46

19-Jun-56

5-Jun-58

984

25-Jul-46

16-Aug-54