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Passenger Carrying Coaches

SR Corridor Stock
(North Cornwall ‘P’ Sets)

 

‘P’ set 179 (coaches 6673 & 3732) hauled by T9 locomotive 30313 leaves Yeoford with the 3.48pm Exeter Central to Okehampton service on Saturday 7th May 1960.
© S.C. Nash (Mike King Collection)

‘P’ set 179 (coaches 6673 & 3732) hauled by T9 locomotive no.30313 leaves Yeoford with the 3.48pm Exeter Central to Okehampton service on Saturday, 7th May 1960.

© S.C. Nash (Mike King Collection)

 

Sets 22 to 31, 168, 172,
178 to 180 & 196 to 200

The 2 Cor (two-coach ‘P’) sets were employed both on the Southern’s North Cornwall ‘Withered Arm’ lines and the Bournemouth Mainline (set 180 being specifically formed for Swanage portions) with sample diagrams given in Appendix 1. These sets comprised of a Maunsell Corridor Brake Third (BTK to diagram nos. 2102, 2110 or 2113) and a Corridor Brake Composite (BCK to diagram no.2401 or 2403).

Sets 179, 180, 199 & 200 were formed new in 1930 with sets 168, 172, 178, 196 & 198 following in 1935. More sets were created in 1948 /1949 (numbered 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 & 29) with sets 30, 31 following in 1962.

These sets initially utilised 1929-1934 Maunsell high-window  and 1935 ‘flush sided’ stock. with just one set (29) being formed with a Maunsell low-window BCK. However, from December 1959 to September 1960 set 23 used a Bulleid BCK and around December 1962  sets 28, 198 & 199 employed ‘large corridor window’ 1936-built Corridor Brake Thirds (to diag.2113).

In 1959 /1960 sets 22, 168, 172, 178, 196 & 198 were reformed to release their diagram no.2403 (1935 ‘flush sided’) BCK coaches for conversion into Pull-Push sets; these being replaced with diagram no.2401 (1929-1934 high-window) BCK coaches. The disposition of these different coach types across each set is summarised in Appendix 2.

Many of the sets were transferred to the Western Region on 1st June 1963 although did not last long being replaced by diesel-mechanical multiple units.

Abolition of Second Class

Third-class was designated second-class following the abolition of second-class by British Railways on Sunday 3rd June 1956. As these sets only carried a number ‘1’ to denote first-class this change was essentially a paper one including BTK now being designated BSK. In the tables below coaches are described as Third-class until 3rd June 1956 when Second Class is used.

 

 

Maunsell diag. 2401 ‘High Window’ BCK coach 6575 of ‘P’ set 23 at Bodmin North on Wednesday, 25th June 1952. With space for a crimson cantrail band above its compartments, the ‘P’ set’s other coach (2792 to diag.2113) appears mismatched. 
© J.H. Aston (Mike King Collection)

Maunsell diag. 2401 ‘High Window’ BCK coach 6575 of ‘P’ set 23 at Bodmin North on Wednesday, 25th June 1952. Note the coach number is position on the left-hand end of the coach.

Devoid of a Crimson Cantrail band above its compartments, the ‘P’ set’s other coach (BTK 2792 to diag.2113) appears mismatched.

© J.H. Aston (Mike King Collection)

 

 

Set Formations

‘P’ Set 22

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

22

13-Nov-48
(2 Cor)

2790
(ex.265)

6577
(ex.Loose)

 

Feb-51
(2 Cor)

2790

6691
(ex.Loose)

 

14-Jun-60
(2 Cor)

2790

6648
(ex.Loose)

 

Nov-60
(2 Cor)

2790

6669
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Dec-64)

(w May-65)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

22

2 Cor ‘P’ set formed 13th November 1948 from BTK 2790 (ex.265) and BCK 6577 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2790 (diag.2113)
BCK 6577 (diag.2401)

Set outshopped Lancing works in Crimson Lake & Cream livery 27th December 1950 (no prior painting dates available).

Reformed February 1951 with BCK 6577 (to ‘Loose’ and withdrawal March 1962) replaced by BCK 6691 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2790 (diag.2113)
BCK 6691 (diag.2403)

Set outshopped Lancing works in BR(S) Green livery 3rd Apil 1957.

Reformed 14th June 1960 with BCK 6691 replaced by BCK 6648 (ex. ‘Loose’). BCK 6691 being required for conversion into Pull-Push driving coach for set 615:

BSK 2790 (diag.2113)
BCK 6648 (diag.2401)

Reformed November 1960 with BCK 6648 (to WR? thence withdrawal) replaced by BCK 6669 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2790 (diag.2113)
BCK 6669 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2790 withdrawn December 1964 and BCK 6669 withdrawn May 1965.

 

8th May 1963 and a Memo to Works Manager, Carriage and Wagon Works, Eastleigh (reference RS.51/3/1/D titled Withdrawal of Coaching Stock states:

With reference to your conversation with Mr. Double last week; BSKs 2787, 3737, BCKs 6577 and 6588 have, as requested, today been placed in your works for breaking up.

Will you kindly arrange for the bodies and underframes to be cut up, recovering any useable details and also bogies, and if possible the body panels should be fired as I am given to understand that scrap material without any paint etc. on it can more easily be disposed of.

Kindly ensure that all details of the breaking up are recorded on future C.S.R.3 returns’.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2790 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh 1935 new to ‘Loose’. To set 265 in 1945 and varnish (26th April 1946) thence (with BTK 2792 to set 23) to London Bridge for inclusion into set 22 on 13th November 1948. Outshopped Crimson Lake & Cream livery (27th December 1950) [no prior painting dates available] thence BR(S) Green livery (2nd Apil 1957). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn December 1964.

BCK 6577 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 1929 new to ‘Loose’. To set 22 on 13th November 1948 thence into Eastern Section Miscellaneous Non-Corridor set 669 c.February 1951. Outshopped Lancing Crimson Lake & Cream (13th December 1954). Destined to Eastern Section Miscellaneous Non-Corridor set 334 but ‘Loose’ instead (1st April 1955). BR(S) Green (3rd July 1957). Withdrawn March 1962.

BCK 6648 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Malachite (9th January 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream (13th September 1954), BR(S) Green (23rd April 1958) and A2-exam plus damage repair (13th February 1961). Into set 22 on 14th June 1960 thence to ‘Loose’ November 1960. Into set 25 on 17th October 1961 and WR 1st January 1963 (withdrawal date not known).

BCK 6669 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 25th April 1930 new ‘Loose’. Lancing Olive paint (7th June 1937) thence damage repairs (5th May 1941 to 17th May 1941). Outshopped Malachite (7th June 1944) and Crimson Lake & Cream (6th October 1950). To set 352 (June 1951) back to ‘Loose’ (June 1957) and BR(S) Green (4th July 1957). To set 22 November 1960, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn May 1965.

BCK 6691 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 1935 new to ‘Loose’. BR(S) Green (3rd April 1957). To set 22 November 1960, to WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn May 1965.

No ‘Loose’ record cards for BTL 2970 & BCK 6691.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 23

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

23

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

2792
(ex.265)

6575
(ex.Loose)

 

Dec-59
(2 Cor)

2792

6731
(ex.Loose)

 

Sep-60
(2 Cor)

2792

6646
(ex.Loose)

 

Nov-60
(2 Cor)

2792

6652
(ex.Loose)

 

by Dec-62
(2 Cor)

2792

6655
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Nov-64)

(w Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

23

2 Cor ‘P’ set formed February 1949 from BTK 2792 (ex.265) and BCK 6575 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2792 (diag.2113)
BCK 6575 (diag.2401)

Set outshopped Lancing works in Crimson Lake & Cream (1st November 1949) with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment sides of the coaches. [No prior painting dates currently being available].

Set outshopped Lancing works BR(S) Green livery BTK 2792 (E4-exam) in /BCK 6575 (A2-exam) 13th November 1958.

Reformed December 1959 with BCK 6575 (withdrawn) replaced by BCK 6731 (ex. ‘Loose’ BR(S) Green October 1957). BCK 6731 was a Bulleid coach, built Eastleigh 1948 with 10¼ sidelight vents:

BSK 2792 (diag.2113)
BCK 6731 (diag.2406)

Reformed September 1960 with BCK 6731 (to ‘Loose’ thence withdrawal May 1965) replaced by BCK 6646 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2792 (diag.2113)
BCK 6646 (diag.2401)

Lancing Works record card for set 23 states BCK 6646 was ex. set 433. However, this is not consistent with the record card for set 433.

Reformed November 1960 with BCK 6646 (to ‘Loose’ thence set 27, to WR January 1963 and withdrawal October 1965) replaced by BCK 6652 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2792 (diag.2113)
BCK 6652 (diag.2401)

Reformed by December 1962 with BCK 6652 (condemned December 1962) replaced by BCK 6655 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2792 (diag.2113)
BCK 6655 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2792 and BCK 6655 withdrawn November 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2792 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.December 1935 new to ‘Loose’. To set 265 in 1945 and varnish (26th April 1946) thence (with BTK 2790 to set 22) to London Bridge on 13th November 1948 for inclusion into set 23 in February 1949. Crimson Lake & Cream (1st November 1949 with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment sides of the coaches) and  BR(S) Green (13th November 1958). Withdrawn December 1964.

BCK 6575 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to ‘Loose’. Crimson Lake & Cream (1st November 1949 with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment sides of the coaches) and BR(S) Green (27th October 1958). Withdrawn from set 23 in December 1959.

BCK 6646 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (19th October 1936), Malachite (29th October 1945),  Crimson Lake & Cream (19th February 1954), BR(S) Green (13th January 1958). ‘Loose’ to set 433 (c.December 1959 although not listed in 1960 CWNA) thence to set 23 in September 1960. Back to ‘Loose’ November 1960  thence set 27 and WR. Withdrawn October 1965.

BCK 6652 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works damage repair (22nd March 1937), Olive (2nd May 1938), Malachite (5th March 1949) thence to BR(S) Green (14th February 1958). To set 23 in November 1960 thence condemned (in set 23) December 1962.

BCK 6655 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 11th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (24th March 1937), damage repair (1st July 1941) and (19th March 1943 - Enemy Action), Malachite (17th September 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (5th February 1954). To set 168 by June 1960 and BR(S) Green (11th October 1960) thence ‘Loose’ by June 1961. Record card identifies E4-exam (12th January 1961) and after a visit to Eastleigh (22nd June 1962) it states, ‘To set 25’. However, there appears to be no further record of this taking place. Into set 23 by December 1962, to WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6731 (diag.2406) Rstn ‘4’ Bulleid Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 1948 with 10¼ sidelight vents new to ‘Loose’. Malachite (new) thence to BR(S) Green (2nd October 1957). To set 23 in December 1959 thence back to ‘Loose’ September 1960. Withdrawn May 1964.

Note - no ‘Loose’ record cards for BTK 2972, BCK 6575 & BCK 6731.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 24

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

24

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

2832
(ex.266)

6602
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Jul-64)

(w Jul-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

24

2 Cor set formed February 1949 from BTK 2832 (ex.266) and BCK 6602 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2832 (diag.2113)
BCK 6602 (diag.2401)

Set outshopped Lancing works in Malachite Green (BTK 2832  20th June 1947  & BCK 6602 July 1947), thence to BR(S) Green (13th November 1958). Set did not receive Crimson Lake & Cream livery.

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2832 and BCK 6602 withdrawn July 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2832 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh December 1935 new to ‘Loose’. To set 266 in 1945, Malachite Green (20th June 1947) thence (with BTK 3780 to set 25) to London Bridge on 20th November 1948 for inclusion into set 24 in February 1949. From Malachite to BR(S) Green (13th November 1958). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn July 1964.

BCK 6602 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.1930 new to ‘Loose’ and Malachite Green (July 1947). To set 24 in February 1949. From Malachite to BR(S) Green (13th November 1958). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn July 1964.

No ‘Loose’ record cards for BTK 2832 or BCK 6602.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 25

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

25

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

3780§
(ex.266)

6665
(ex.Loose)

 

17-Oct-61
(2 Cor)

3780§

6648
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Jul-64)

(w ?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

25

2 Cor set formed February 1949 from BTK 3780 (ex.266) and BCK 6665 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 3780 (diag.2110§)
BCK 6665 (diag.2401)

§ two lavatory vents.

BCK 6665 outshopped Lancing works in Crimson Lake & Cream livery 13th July 1955 (E4-exam) with BTK 3780 receiving an A2 varnish (no pre-nationalisation painting dates available).

Set appears to have carried mis-matched liveries until BSK 3780 outshopped in BR(S) Green 14th August 1957 (with BCK 6665 receiving an A2 varnish).

BSK 3780 outshopped Lancing damaged repair (E4-exam) 27th May 1959 (with BCK 6665 receiving an A2 varnish).

Reformed 16th October 1961 BCK 6665 outshopped Lancing E4-exam) 4th December 1961 with BSK 3780 receiving an A2 varnish. BCK 6665 (to ‘Loose’ thence set 26, WR January 1963 and withdrawal July 1964) replaced by BCK 6648 (ex. ‘Loose’ painted BR(S) Green February 1961):

BSK 3780 (diag.2113)
BCK 6648 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 3780 withdrawn July 1964 and BCK 6648 withdrawal date not known.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 3780 (diag.2110) Rstn ‘4’ high-window (with two lavatory vents) Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.September 1933 new to ‘Loose’. To set 266 in 1945, Malachite Green (20th June 1947) thence (with BTK 2832 to set 24) to London Bridge on 20th November 1948 for inclusion into set 25 in February 1949. From Malachite to BR(S) Green livery (14th August 1957). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn July 1964.

BCK 6648 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Malachite (9th January 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream (13th September 1954), BR(S) Green (23rd April 1958) and A2-exam plus damage repair (13th February 1961). Into set 22 on 14th June 1960 thence to ‘Loose’ November 1960. Into set 25 on 17th October 1961 and WR 1st January 1963 (withdrawal date not known).

BCK 6665 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.1930 new to ‘Loose’. To set 25 February 1949 and Crimson Lake & Cream livery (13th July 1955) thence BR(S) Green (18th July 1957). To ‘Loose’ thence set 26 c.December 1962, WR January 1963 and withdrawal July 1964.

No ‘Loose’ record cards for BTK 3780 or BCK 6602 with no additional formation for BCK 6665.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 26

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

26

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

2831
(ex.267)

6586
(ex.Loose)

 

1961
(2 Cor)

2831

6593
(ex.270)

 

Dec-62
(2 Cor)

2831

6665
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Jul-64)

(w Jul-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

26

2 Cor set formed February 1949 from BTK 2831 (ex.267) and BCK 6586 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2831 (diag.2113)
BCK 6586 (diag.2401)

Set outshopped Lancing works in Crimson Lake & Cream 24th May 1950 thence BR(S) Green 8th April 1957.

Reformed late 1961 with BCK 6586 withdrawn December 1961 and replaced by BCK 6593 (ex. set 270):

BTK 2831 (diag.2113)
BCK 6593 (diag.2401)

Reformed December 1961 with BCK 6593 withdrawn and replaced by BCK 6665 (ex. ‘Loose’). It is possible the set did not enter service with BCK 6593.

BSK 2831 (diag.2113)
BCK 6665 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 3780 and BCK 6665 withdrawn July 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2831 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.December 1935 new to ‘Loose’. To set 267 in 1945, varnish (9th April 1947) thence (with BTK 3775 to set 27) to Waterloo 8th February 1949 for inclusion into set 25 in February 1949. Outshopped Crimson Lake & Cream (24th May 1950) thence BR(S) Green (8th April 1957). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn July 1964.

BCK 6586 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.1930 new to ‘Loose’. To set 26 in February 1949 and Crimson Lake & Cream (24th May 1950) thence BR(S) Green (8th April 1957). Withdrawn from set 26 in December 1961.

BCK 6593 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 11th March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (18th October 1937), damage repair (1st November 1941 & 9th September 1944), Malachite (24th June 1947) thence to BR(S) Green (28th April 1958). Into set 276 in June 1954 thence set 270 November 1959 and set 26 in 1961. Withdrawn from set 26 on 28th December 1962.

BCK 6665 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.1930 new to ‘Loose’. To set 25 in February 1949 and Crimson Lake & Cream livery (13th July 1955) thence BR(S) Green (18th July 1957). To ‘Loose’ thence set 26 c.December 1962, WR January 1963 and withdrawal July 1964.

No ‘Loose’ record cards for BTK 2831 or BCK 6586 with no additional formation for BCK 6665.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 27

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

27

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

3775§
(ex.267)

6603
(ex.Loose)

 

by Dec-62
(2 Cor)

3775§

6646
(ex.433)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Mar-65)

(w Oct-65)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

27

2 Cor set formed February 1949 from BTK 3775 (ex.267) and BCK 6603 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 3775 (diag.2110§)
BCK 6603 (diag.2401)
§
two lavatory vents.

Set outshopped Lancing works Crimson Lake & Cream (25th October 1949), BR(S) Green (25th April 1958), damage repair (5th January 1959), slight damage repair Eastleigh (20th April 1961).

Reformed by December 1962 with BCK 6603 condemned December 1962 and replaced by BCK 6646 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 3775 (diag.2113)
BCK 6646 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 3780 withdrawn March 1965 and BCK 6646 withdrawn October 1965.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 3775 (diag.2110) Rstn ‘4’ high-window (two lavatory vents) Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.September 1933 new to ‘Loose’. To set 267 in 1945, varnish (9th April 1947) thence (with BTK 2831 to set 25) to Waterloo 8th February 1949 for inclusion into set 27 in February 1949. Outshopped Crimson Lake & Cream (25th October 1949), BR(S) Green (25th April 1958), damage repair (5th January 1959), slight damage repair Eastleigh (20th April 1961).

BCK 6603(diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Crimson Lake & Cream (25th October 1949), BR(S) Green (25th April 1958), damage repair (5th January 1959), slight damage repair Eastleigh (20th April 1961). Condemned from set 27 in December 1962.

BCK 6646 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (19th October 1936), Malachite (29th October 1945),  Crimson Lake & Cream (19th February 1954), BR(S) Green (13th January 1958). ‘Loose’ to set 433 (c.December 1959 although not listed in 1960 CWNA) thence to set 23 in September 1960. Back to ‘Loose’ November 1960  thence set 27 and WR. Withdrawn October 1965.

No ‘Loose’ record cards for BTL 3775 & BCK 6603.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 28

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

28

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

2787
(ex.400)

6569
(ex.Loose)

 

Jun-62
(2 Cor)

2787
(w Dec-62)

6591
(ex.270)

 

c.Dec-62
(2 Cor)

4240
(ex.956)

6643
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Nov-64)

(w Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

28

2 Cor set formed February 1949 from BTK 2787 (ex. set 400) and low-window BCK 6569 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2787 (diag.2113)
BCK 6569 (diag.2401 LW)

Set outshopped Lancing works from Malachite to BR(S) Green livery 10th January 1957.

Reformed June 1962 with BCK 6569 withdrawn December 1962 and replaced by BCK 6591 (ex. set 270):

BSK 2787 (diag.2113)
BCK 6591 (diag.2401)

Reformed by December 1962 with BTK 2787 withdrawn December 1962 and replaced by BTK 4240 (ex. set 956). Also BCK 6591 withdrawn December 1962 and replaced by BCK 6643 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 4240 (diag.2113)
BCK 6643 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 4240 and BCK 6643 withdrawn November 1964.

 

8th May 1963 and a Memo to Works Manager, Carriage and Wagon Works, Eastleigh (reference RS.51/3/1/D titled Withdrawal of Coaching Stock states:

With reference to your conversation with Mr. Double last week; BSKs 2787, 3737, BCKs 6577 and 6588 have, as requested, today been placed in your works for breaking up.

Will you kindly arrange for the bodies and underframes to be cut up, recovering any useable details and also bogies, and if possible the body panels should be fired as I am given to understand that scrap material without any paint etc. on it can more easily be disposed of.

Kindly ensure that all details of the breaking up are recorded on future C.S.R.3 returns’.

 

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2787 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.December 1935 new to 3 Cor set 400. Outshopped Malachite (8th October 1947). To Waterloo (with BTK 2788 to set 29) on 8th February 1949 for inclusion into set 28 in February 1949. Malachite to BR(S) Green (27th December 1956). Withdrawn from set 28 in December 1962.

BTK 4240 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ large corridor windows Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.30th July 1936 new to 4 Cor set 956. Outshopped Lancing works damage repairs (23rd March 1941 & 11th December 1943), Malachite (21st October 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (28th May 1956) and BR(S) Green (3rd June 1958). To set 28 by December 1962 thence WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6569 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.1930 new to ‘Loose’ thence to set 28 in February 1949. Outshopped Malachite to BR(S) Green (10th January 1957). Withdrawn from set 28 in December 1962.

BCK 6591 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 11th March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works damage repair (17th August 1937) thence paint (14th August 1939), damage repair (6th June 1946) and Malachite (7th March 1949),  To set 276 (newly formed in Malachite Green April 1954) thence to BR(S) Green (28th April 1958). To set 270 on November 1959, set 28 by June 1962 and withdrawn December1962.

BCK 6643 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite new Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive 22nd January 1937, with multiple visits to Lancing, Eastleigh and Peckham Rye the Malachite date is unclear (believed either 8th July 1946 else 20th October 1948),  Crimson Lake & Cream & ‘Special Renovations WoE’ (2nd January 1954), BR(S) Green (10th April 1958). ‘Loose’ to set 29 on 11th December 1959 (Waterloo set alterations). Back to ‘Loose’ 17th April 1961 thence set 28 by December 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

No ‘Loose’ record card for BCK 6569.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 29

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

29

Feb-49
(2 Cor)

2788
(ex.400)

6567
(ex.Loose)

 

11-Dec-59
(2 Cor)

2788

6643
(ex.Loose)

 

17-Apr-61
(2 Cor)

2788

6653
(ex.Loose)

 

Dec-62
(2 Cor)

2788

6672

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Nov-64)

(w Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

29

2 Cor set formed February 1949 from BTK 2788 (ex. set 400) and low-window BCK 6567 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BTK 2788 (diag.2113)
BCK 6567 (diag.2401 LW)

Outshopped Eastleigh slight damage 5th November 1954. From Malachite BTK 2788 outshopped BR(S) Green (21st July 1958 E4-exam) with Malachite BCK 6567 receiving an A2-exam.

Reformed 11th December 1959 (Waterloo set alterations) with BCK 6567 withdrawn December 1950 and replaced by BR(S) Green BCK 6643 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2788 (diag.2113)
BCK 6643 (diag.2401)

Reformed 17th April 1961 (Waterloo set alterations) with BCK 6643 to ‘Loose’ (then set 28) and replaced by BR(S) Green BCK 6653 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2788 (diag.2113)
BCK 6653 (diag.2401)

Reformed December 1962 with BCK 6653 condemned December 1962 and replaced by BR(S) Green BCK 6672 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2788 (diag.2113)
BCK 6672 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2788 and BCK 6672 withdrawn November 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2788 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.December 1935 new to 3 Cor set 400. Outshopped Malachite 8th October 1947. To Waterloo (with BTK 2787 to set 28) on 8th February 1949 for inclusion into set 29 in February 1949. From Malachite outshopped BR(S) Green (21st July 1958). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6643 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite new Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive 22nd January 1937, with multiple visits to Lancing, Eastleigh and Peckham Rye the Malachite date is unclear (believed either 8th July 1946 else 20th October 1948),  Crimson Lake & Cream & ‘Special Renovations WoE’ (2nd January 1954), BR(S) Green (10th April 1958). ‘Loose’ to set 29 on 11th December 1959 (Waterloo set alterations). Back to ‘Loose’ 17th April 1961 thence set 28 by December 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6567 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ low-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh August 1926 new to ‘Loose’. Date of Malachite not known. To set 29 in February 1949 with five number A2-exams (varnishing) but no painting exams.  Withdrawn from set 29 on 11th December 1959.

BCK 6653 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite new Eastleigh 31st March 1930. Outshopped Lancing works damage (16th September 1937), paint (18th April 1939), damage (26th October 1944), Crimson Lake & Cream (17th November 1949), BR(S) Green (26th June 1957). ‘Loose’ to set 29 on 17th April 1961 condemned December 1962.

BCK 6672 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite new Eastleigh 24th April 1930. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (26th August 1936), paint (20th December 1941), Malachite (7th June 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream (27th May 1954) and BR(S) Green (7th August 1958). ‘Loose’ to set 29 on 17th April 1961 and condemned December 1962.

No ‘Loose’ record cards for BTK 2788 & BCK 6567.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 30

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

30

Feb-62
(2 Cor)

3788
(ex.246)

6668
(ex.246)

 

by Dec-62
(2 Cor)

3788

6601
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Dec-64)

(w ?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

30

BR(S) Green 2 Cor set formed February 1962 from BTK 3788 (ex. set 246) and BCK 6668 (ex. set 272):

BTK 3788 (diag.2110§)
BCK 6668 (diag.2401)
§
two lavatory vents.

Reformed by December 1962 with BCK 6668 condemned December 1962 and replaced by BCK 6601 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 3788 (diag.2110)
BCK 6601 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 3877 withdrawn December 1964 and BCK 6601 withdrawal date not known.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 3788 (diag.2110) Rstn ‘4’ high-window (two lavatory vents) Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.September 1933 new to set 246. Paint (November 1935), Malachite (20th January 1948) thence to BR(S) Green (12th May 1958). Set 246 disbanded with BTK 3788 to set 30 in February 1962. To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn December 1964.

BCK 6601 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 20th March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Paint (29th October 1936, damage repair (9th October 1941, underframe repair Eastleigh (22nd November 1946) and Crimson Lake & Cream (16th March 1951). To set 350 (November 1951) thence to set 431 by May 1957 (for 17th June 1957 CWNA) and BR(S) Green (24th January 1958). To set 442 (for 12th June 1961 CWNA) thence ‘Loose’ (18th June 1962 CWNA). Outshopped Lancing E4-exam (for ‘ACE’ 26th April 1962). To set 30 by December 1962 and WR 1st January 1963 (withdrawal date not known).

BCK 6668 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh by October 1930 new to ‘Loose’. To set 272 in 1945, Malachite 28th January 1948 thence to BR(S) Green (25th April 1958). To set 30 c.February 1962. Condemned December 1962.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 31

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

31

Feb-62
(2 Cor)

2838
(ex.202)

6598
(ex.Loose)

 

Nov-62
(2 Cor)

2838

6662
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Nov-64)

(w Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

31

BR(S) Green 2 Cor set formed February 1962 from BTK 2838 (ex. set 202) and BCK 6598 (ex. set 271):

BTK 2838 (diag.2113)
BCK 6598 (diag.2401)

Reformed by December 1962 with BCK 6668 condemned December 1962 and replaced by BCK 6662 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2838 (diag.2113)
BCK 6662 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2838 withdrawn November 1964 and BCK 6601 withdrawal date not known.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2838 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh c.December 1935 new to set 202. Damage repair (5th August 1941), slight damage repair (6th September 1945), Malachite (3rd October 1945), slight damage repair (26th February 1946), Malachite to BR(S) Green (15th August 1958) with set disbanded c.June 1961. To set 31 in February 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6598 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 20th March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Paint (29th October 1937, damage repairs (6th February 1941 & 27th July 1944), Malachite 23rd September 1947. To ‘new’ set 274 June 1954 Crimson Lake & Cream (21st June 1955) and BR(S) Green (26th April 1957). To ‘Loose’ 2nd July 1959 (Waterloo set alterations). To set 271 November 1959 thence to set 31 in February 1962 and withdrawn December 1962

BCK 6662 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 11th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Paint (19th October 1936), damage repair 19th March 1942, Malachite date unclear, underframe repairs Eastleigh (23rd March 1948) and Crimson Lake & Cream (9th February 1951). To ‘new’ set 351 February 1951 thence to set 433 November 1956 and BR(S) Green (9th May 1958). Back to ‘Loose’ November 1960 and outshopped Lancing E4-exam (for ‘ACE’ 5th December 1960). To set 31 November 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

 

Note

Set 31 was previously carried by an ex.LSWR 2 Pull-Push set formed 26th May 1939 (BTL 3053 & CL 4774), Malachite livery 5th January 1945, reformed & CL livery 7th June 1950 (BT 3474 & CL 4744), reformed 2nd June 1961 (BT 3478 & C 4730) withdrawn and burnt at Newhaven 28th March 1961.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 168

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

168

Oct-35
(2 Cor)

2776
(New)

6695
(New)

14-Oct-60
(2 Cor)

2776

6655
(ex.Loose)

24-Oct-60
(2 Cor)

2776

6659
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Dec-63)

(w ?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

168

2 Cor set formed 14th December 1935 with BTK 2776 and BCK 6695 (both new):

BTK 2776 (diag.2113)
BCK 6695 (diag.2403)

Outshopped Lancing works damage repair 22nd March 1941, Malachite 24th June 1944, A2 varnish 25th March 1949 (Gill Sans), Crimson Lake & Cream 25th May 1951 & BR(S) Green 10th June 1958.

Reformed 14th June 1960 with BCK 6695 to Pull-Push set 616 and replaced by BCK 6655 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2776 (diag.2113)
BCK 6655 (diag.2401)

Reformed 24th October 1960 with BCK 6695 to ‘Loose’ and replaced by BCK 6659 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2776 (diag.2113)
BCK 6659 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2776 withdrawn December 1963 and BCK 6659 withdrawal date not known.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2776 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 168 on 14th December 1935. Outshopped damage repair (22nd March 1941), Malachite (24th June 1944), A2 varnish BR number in Gill Sans (25th March 1949), Crimson Lake & Cream (25th May 1951) & BR(S) Green (10th June 1958). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6655 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 11th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (24th March 1937), damage repairs (1st July 1941 & 19th March 1943 - Enemy Action), Malachite (17th September 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (5th February 1954). To set 168 by June 1960 and BR(S) Green (11th October 1960) thence ‘Loose’ by June 1961. Record card identifies E4-exam (12th January 1961) and after a visit to Eastleigh (22nd June 1962) it states, ‘To set 25’. However, there appears to be no further record of this taking place. Into set 23 by December 1962, to WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6659 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 11th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (14th October 1937), damage repairs (2nd February 1942 & 27th November 1944), Crimson Lake & Cream (1st May 1951), and BR(S) Green (14th November 1958). To set 168 on 24th October 1960 and WR 1st January 1963 (withdrawal date not known).

BCK 6695 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 168 on 14th December 1935. Outshopped damage repair (22nd March 1941), Malachite (24th June 1944), A2 varnish BR number in Gill Sans (25th March 1949), Crimson Lake & Cream (25th May 1951) & BR(S) Green (10th June 1958). To Pull-Push set 616 on 14th June 1960 and withdrawn 1st October 1964.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 172

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

172

23-Nov-35
(2 Cor)

2777
(New)

6696
(New)

31-May-60
(2 Cor)

2777

6664
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(Nov-64)

(Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

172

2 Cor set formed 8th October 1935 with BTK 2777 (new) and BCK 6695 (new):

BTK 2777 (diag.2113)
BCK 6696 (diag.2403)

Outshopped Lancing works damage repair 13th May 1941, Malachite 26th May 1944, Crimson Lake & Cream 13th October 1949 (with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment sides of the coaches) & BR(S) Green 14th August 1957.

Reformed 31st May 1960 with BCK 6696 to Pull-Push set 617 and replaced by BCK 6664 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2777 (diag.2113)
BCK 6664 (diag.2401)

A Waterloo Inspector’s memo dated 15th December 1961 titled ‘Exeter’ stated ‘Set No. 172 was damaged at Exeter and sent forward to Micheldever to berth awaiting repairs. 

BSK 2777    Built 1935, Paint 5-60.

Badly bent headstock.

BCK 6664   Built 1930, Paint 7-51, V 4-60.

No vehicle damage but in very bad condition, leaky lights and roof, Lavs out of use, mildew everywhere, corridors and compartments’.

 

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2777 and BCK 6664 withdrawn November 1964.

  

Coaches used in set

BTK 2777 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 172 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped damage repair (13th May 1941), Malachite (26th May 1944), Crimson Lake & Cream with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment sides of the coaches (13th October 1949& BR(S) Green (14th August 1957). Damaged at Exeter 15th December 1961 and outshopped Lancing A2-exam (11th April 1962). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6664 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 24th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped damage repair (17th August 1937), paint (15th January 1940), Crimson Lake & Cream (18th December 1951) and BR(S) Green (11th September 1957). To set 172 on 31st May 1960, damaged at Exeter 15th December 1961 and outshopped Lancing E4-exam (8th May 1962). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6696 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to 172 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped damage repair (13th May 1941), Malachite (26th May 1944), Crimson Lake & Cream with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment sides of the coaches (13th October 1949& BR(S) Green (14th August 1957). To Pull-Push set 617 on 31st May 1960 and withdrawn 1st October 1964.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 178

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

178

26-Nov-35
(2 Cor)

2836
(New)

6696
(New)

 

Jun-60
(2 Cor)

2836

6666
(ex.Loose)

 

Nov-62
(2 Cor)

2836

6650
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w 16-May-64)

(w 16-May-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

178

2 Cor set formed 26th November 1935 with BTK 2836 (new 13th September 1935) and BCK 6690 (new 26th November 1935):

BTK 2836 (diag.2113)
BCK 6696 (diag.2403)

Outshopped Lancing works damage repair 1st July 1941 & 21st August 1940 (BTK 2836 only), Malachite 8th May 1944, Damage repair 9th December 1946, Crimson Lake & Cream 26th September 1950 & BR(S) Green 27th October 1958.

Reformed June 1960 with BCK 6696 to Pull-Push set 612 and replaced by BCK 6666 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2836 (diag.2113)
BCK 6666 (diag.2401)

Reformed November 1962 with BCK 6666 withdrawn 3rd November 1962 and replaced by BCK 6650 (now ex. ‘Loose’ but previously set 180):

BSK 2836 (diag.2113)
BCK 6650 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2836 and BCK 6650 withdrawn 16th May 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2836 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 13th September 1935 new to set 178 on 26th November 1935. Outshopped Lancing works damage repair (1st July 1941 & 21st August 1940), Malachite (8th May 1944), damage repair (9th December 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (26th September 1950) & BR(S) Green (27th October 1958). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn 16th May 1964.

BCK 6650 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped damage repair (30th September 1937), paint (13th October 1939),  Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (10th July 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream & stencilled 352 set (19th February 1951) with set 351 formed February 1951. To ‘Loose’ November 1956, BR(S) Green (6th February 1958). To set 180 on 3rd October 1961 thence to ‘Loose’ (by 18th June 1962 CWNA). To set 178 in November 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn 16th May 1964.

BCK 6666 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 24th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works Olive (28th October 1936), Malachite (28th May 1946), Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (27th July 1948), Crimson Lake & Cream - Special Renovations (6th May 1954) and BR(S) Green (11th September 1957). To set 178 in June 1960 and withdrawn 3rd November 1962.

BCK 6696 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 178 on 26th November 1935. Outshopped Lancing works damage repair (1st July 1941), Malachite (8th May 1944), damage repair (9th December 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (26th September 1950) & BR(S) Green (27th October 1958). Although still shewn by the 13th June 1960 CWNA as being in set 178, to Pull-Push set 612 June 1960 and withdrawn 16th May 1964.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 179

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

179

23-Sep-30
(2 Cor)

3732
(New)

6673
(New)

 

17-Jan-61
(2 Cor)

3732

6658
(ex.Loose)

 

c.3-May-62
(2 Cor)

2837
(ex.202)

6658

 

by Dec-62
(2 Cor)

2837

6673
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(w Nov-64)

(w Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

179

2 Cor set formed 29th September 1935 of BTK 3732 (new 23rd September 1930 & BCK 6673 (new 29th September 1935):

BTK 3732 (diag.2102)
BCK 6673 (diag.2401)

Outshopped Lancing works Damage repair 8th April 1937, paint 1st February 1939, Damage repair 5th September 1944, Malachite 3rd January 1947, Crimson Lake & Cream 17th April 1956 & BR(S) Green 8th August 1958.

Reformed c.February 1961 with BCK 6673 to ‘Loose’ and replaced by BCK 6658 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 3732 (diag.2113)
BCK 6658 (diag.2401)

Set damaged at Launceston on 23rd November 1961 with BSK 3732 condemned January 1962 and BCK 6658 entering Lancing A2-exam (9th March 1962 to 3rd May 1962).

A Waterloo Inspector’s memo dated 23rd November 1961 titled ‘Launceston’ stated ‘2 Set No. 179 was damaged in a mishap at Launceston on above inst. And when safe to run will be carded to Micheldever.

BCK 6658

Body and underframe damage.

BSK 3732

Slight body damage, nature of defects not known’.

 

Set reformed c.3rd May 1962 with BSK 3732 replaced by BSK 2837 (ex. set 202):

BSK 2837 (diag.2113)
BCK 6658 (diag.2401)

Set reformed by December 1962 with BCK 6658 condemned December 1962 and replaced by BCK 6673 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2837 (diag.2113)
BCK 6673 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2837 and BCK 6673 withdrawn November 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BSK 2837 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 202 c.December 1935. Damage repairs (c. February 1940, 5th August 1941 & 6th September 1945). Outshopped Malachite (3rd October 1945) thence to BR(S) Green (15th August 1958). To set 179 c.3rd May 1962 (reformation following incident at Launceston on 23rd November 1961). WR January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BTK 3732 (diag.2102) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh 23rd September 1930 new to ‘Loose’. To set 179 on 29th September 1935. Outshopped damage repair (8th April 1937), paint (1st February 1939), damage repair (5th September 1944), Malachite (3rd January 1947), Crimson Lake & Cream (17th April 1956), BR(S) Green (8th August 1958), damaged at Launceston on 23rd November 1961, condemned January 1962 and confirmed berthed at Worthy Down with other withdrawn stock (4th July 1962).

BCK 6673 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 179 on 29th September 1935. Outshopped damage repair (8th April 1937), paint (1st February 1939), damage repair (5th September 1944), Malachite (3rd January 1947), Crimson Lake & Cream (17th April 1956) & BR(S) Green (8th August 1958). To ‘Loose’ January 1961 (being replaced by BCK 6658), E4-exam for ACE (12th April 1961) thence back to set 179 (by December 1962). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6658 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 2nd May 1930. Outshopped Olive (17th February 1937), damage repair (31st March 1942), Malachite (29th May 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream - Special Renovations (18th May 1954) and BR(S) Green (10th March 1958). Used for Hayling Island services c.1960. To set 179 17th January 1961. Damaged at Launceston on 23rd November 1961 and underwent Lancing A2-exam (9th March 1962 to 3rd May 1962). However, condemned in December 1962 and berthed at Exeter 22nd March 1963 (for onward travel to Basinstoke).

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 180

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

180

9-Oct-30
(2 Cor)

3733
(New)

6674
(New)

 

3-Oct-61
(2 Cor)

3733

6650
(ex.Loose)

Disb

by Jun-62

w Dec-62

(WR Jan-63)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

180

2 Cor set formed 9th October 1930 (for Swanage portion) formed of BTK 3733 & BCK 6674:

BTK 3733 (diag.2102)
BCK 6674 (diag.2401)

Outshopped from Lancing works damage repair BTK 3733 (3rd May 1937) thence BCK 6674 (20th May 1937), paint (2nd July 1938), damage repair (2nd September 1941), Malachite (31st May 1948) thence to BR(S) Green (17th November 1958).

BCK 6674 damaged at Tavistock on 17th July 1961 and withdrawn 12th August 1961. Set reformed 3rd October 1961 with BCK 6674 replaced by BCK 6650 (ex. ‘Loose’ - BR(S) Green):

BSK 3733 (diag.2102)
BCK 6650 (diag.2401)

A Waterloo Inspector’s memo dated 17th July 1961 titled ‘Tavistock’ stated ‘The derailed wagons of a freight train in passing struck the side of BCK 6674 of 180 Set in Tavistock station on the 17th inst. Damage as follows:

BCK 6674 Built 1930. O/Due V.1960.

Guard’s Van O/S damaged.

All corridor side lights broken.

All corridor side body frame pillars, door pillars and doors smashed.

All door locks and commode handles torn off.

All side panels torn or grazed.

Guard’s Van running boards broken and displaced.

7 inside compartment Corr ¼ lights broken.

5 inside compartment sliding door lights broken.

Top stepboard grazed.

Corridor compartment partition damaged.

1 axle box front broken.

Carded to Micheldever, to be withdrawn week ending 22-7-61.

BCK 3733

No damage, released to traffic’.

 

Included in a Weekly Return memo titled ‘Steam & Electric Stock under & awaiting repairs W/E 28-1-61’ (ref: RS.51/2/12) dated 27th January 1961 from R H Griffiths to M.S.Hatchell Esq, RSO, Eastleigh, identified:

Gatwick.

1 of 180 Set    V (3733)

 

Set out-of-use by June 1962 and disbanded.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 3733 (diag.2102) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 180 on 9th October 1930. Outshopped damage repair (3rd May 1937), paint (2nd July 1938), damage repair (2nd September 1941), Malachite (31st May 1948) thence to BR(S) Green (17th November 1958). Set 180 out-of-use by June 1962 and disbanded with BTK 3733 stored at Gatwick wand withdrawn December 1962.

BCK 6650 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 31st March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped damage repair (30th September 1937), paint (13th October 1939),  Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (10th July 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream & stencilled 352 set (19th February 1951) with set 351 formed February 1951. To ‘Loose’ November 1956, BR(S) Green (6th February 1958). To set 180 on 3rd October 1961 thence to ‘Loose’ (by 18th June 1962 CWNA). To set 178 in November 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn 16th May 1964.

BCK 6674 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 180 on 9th October 1930 damage repair (20th May 1937), paint (2nd July 1938), damage repair (2nd September 1941), Malachite (31st May 1948) thence to BR(S) Green (17th November 1958). BCK 6674 damaged at Tavistock on 17th July 1961 and withdrawn 12th August 1961.

 

Note

Set number 180 reused  for 17th June 1963 CWNA as CED Rstn.1 set formed Nondescript Brake (BSO) 4439 to diag.2654 (BR(S) Green 30th November 1956) and Maunsell High-Window CK 5624 to diag.2302 (both ex.181).

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 196

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

CK
No.

196

8-Oct-35
(2 Cor)

2778
(new)

6697
(new)

 

24-Feb-60
(2 Cor)

2778

6667
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(May-65)

(May-65)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

196

2 Cor flush-panelled set 196 formed 8th October 1935 formed of BTK 2778 & BCK 6697 (both new):

BTK 2778 (diag.2113)
BCK 6697 (diag.2403)

Outshopped from Lancing works damage repair 6th August 1941, Malachite 8th November 1945, Underframe Repairs (Eastleigh) 16th April 1948, Crimson Lake & Cream 9th September 1955 & BR(S) Green 30th December 1959.

Set reformed 24th February 1960 with BCK 6697 to Pull-Push set 618 (14th June 1960) and replaced by BCK 6667 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2778 (diag.2113)
BCK 6667 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 2778 withdrawn December 1964 and BCK 6667 withdrawn May 1965.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2778 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 196 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped damage repair (6th August 1941), Malachite (8th November 1945), Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (16th April 1948), Crimson Lake & Cream (9th September 1955) & BR(S) Green (30th December 1959). To WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn May 1965.

BCK 6697 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 196 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped damage repair (6th August 1941), Malachite (8th November 1945), Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (16th April 1948), Crimson Lake & Cream (9th September 1955) & BR(S) Green (30th December 1959). To Pull-Push set 618 on 24th February 1960 (set 618 disbanded 17th June 1963) and withdrawn December 1963.

BCK 6667 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 24th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped paint (10th May 1937),  Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (6th May 1947), Malachite (13th June 1947), Crimson Lake & Cream ‘new look’ (28th June 1954) and BR(S) Green (1st May 1958). To set 196 on 24th February 1960, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn May 1965.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 197

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

CK
No.

197

8-Oct-35
(2 Cor) 

2779
(new)

6698
(new)

 

Disb. Jan-41

To 248

EA 2-Jan-41

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

197

2 Cor flush-panelled set 197 formed 8th October 1935 formed of BTK 2779 & BCK 6698 (new):

BTK 2779 (diag.2113)
BCK 6698 (diag.2403)

Outshopped paint October 1935.

Following damage on 22nd January 1941 (BCK 6698 destroyed by Enemy Action), set 197 disbanded at New Cross Gate and set withdrawn from traffic at this time with BSK 2779 to set 248.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2779 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 197 on 8th October 1935. To set 248 in 1941 (to replace BTK 2782 which had been broken-up on 30th October 1940), Malachite (April 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (7th November 1955) and BR(S) Green (3rd May 1957). To set 436 c.5th January 1962 and withdrawn December 1962.

BCK 6698 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 197 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped paint October 1935. Destroyed by Enemy Action on 22nd January 1941 and withdrawn at New Cross Gate.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 198

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

CK
No.

198

8-Oct-35
(2 Cor) 

2780
(new)

6699
(new)

 

25-Jun-60
(2 Cor) 

2780

6670
(ex.Loose)

 

c.Dec-62
(2 Cor) 

4245
(ex.959)

6595
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(Nov-64)

(Nov-64)


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

198

2 Cor flush-panelled set 198 formed 8th October 1935 formed of BTK 2780 & BCK 6699 (both new):

BTK 2780 (diag.2113)
BCK 6699 (diag.2403)

Outshopped from Lancing works damage repair 17th March 1942, Malachite 11th July 1946, damage repair (slight) 5th October 1954, Crimson Lake & Cream 18th October 1955 & BR(S) Green 3rd January 1958.

Set reformed 24th February 1960 with BCK 6699 to Pull-Push set 619 (25th June 1960) and replaced by BCK 6670 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 2780 (diag.2113)
BCK 6670 (diag.2401)

Set reformed c.December 1962 with BSK 2780 condemned December 1962 & replaced by BSK 4245 (ex. set 959) and BCK 6670 condemned December 1962 & replaced by BCK 6595 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 4245 (diag.2113)
BCK 6595 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 4245 and BCK 6595 withdrawn November 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 2780 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 198 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped from damage repair (17th March 1942), Malachite (11th July 1946), damage repair – slight (5th October 1954), Crimson Lake & Cream (18th October 1955) & BR(S) Green (3rd January 1958). Condemned December 1962.

BSK 4245 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ large corridor windows Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 959 on 3rd July 1936. Damage repairs (27th September 1949 & 16th January 1942), Malachite (11th December 1945), Crimson Lake & Cream (22nd February 1952) and BR(S) Green (4th January 1957). To set 198 c.December 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6595 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 20th March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped Lancing works paint (8th September 1937),  damage repairs (16th May 1941 & 13th November 1944), Malachite (17th November 1947).  To newly formed set 110 on March 1958 and (from Malachite) BR(S) Green 4th April 1958. To ‘Loose’ c.June 1961 thence set 198 c.December 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6670 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh 25th April 1930 new to ‘Loose’. Outshopped paint (10th May 1937), damage repairs (9th September 1940 & 7th September 1943), Malachite (14th November 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (7th July 1954) & BR(S) Green (29th January 1958). To set 198 on 24th February 1960, condemned in December 1962 and stored at Clapham Junction by 18th January 1963.

BCK 6699 (diag.2403) Rstn ‘4’ flush-panelled Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 198 on 8th October 1935. Outshopped from damage repair (17th March 1942), Malachite (11th July 1946), damage repair – slight (5th October 1954), Crimson Lake & Cream (18th October 1955) & BR(S) Green (3rd January 1958). To Pull-Push set 619 on 24th February 1960 (set 619 disbanded 17th June 1963) and withdrawn December 1963.

 

 


 

‘P’ Set 199

Set
No.

Formed /Reform.

BTK
No.

CK
No.

199

Jan-30
(2 Cor) 

3736
(New)

6657
(New)

 

8-Sep-61
(2 Cor) 

2833
(ex.760)

6657

 

c.Dec-62
(2 Cor) 

4246
(ex.959)

6604
(ex.Loose)

To WR

1-Jan-63

(Nov-64)

(Nov-64)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

199

2 Cor set 199 formed January 1930 of BTK 3736 & BCK 6657 (both new):

BTK 3736 (diag.2102)
BCK 6657 (diag.2401)

Outshopped from Lancing works paint 2nd July 1938, Underframe Repairs (Eastleigh) 29th November 1945 (BCK 6657) & 22nd January 1946 (BTK 3736).

Set outshopped (Lancing)  Malachite 18th May 1946, BCK 6657 (only) Crimson Lake & Cream with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment side of the coach (8th June 1949) & (both) BR(S) Green 25th July 1958.

Reformed 8th September 1961 with BSK 3736 condemned August 1961 and replaced by BSK 2833 (ex. set 760):

BSK 2833 (diag.2113)
BCK 6657 (diag.2401)

Reformed c.December 1962 with BSK 2833 condemned December 1962 & replaced by BSK 4246 (ex. set 959) BCK 6657 withdrawn December 1962 & replaced by BCK 6604 (ex. ‘Loose’):

BSK 4246 (diag.2113)
BCK 6604 (diag.2401)

Set transferred to WR 1st January 1963 with BSK 4246 and BCK 6604 withdrawn November 1964.

 

Coaches used in set

BSK 2833 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ flush-sided Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh c.December 1935 new to ‘Loose’. To set 760 in May 1943. Malachite (21st August 1947), Crimson Lake & Cream (25th March 1955), BR(S) Green (3rd June 1957) and to ‘Loose’ June 1957. Entered A2-exam (14th August 1961) and released to set 199 on 8th September 1961. Condemned December 1962.

BTK 3736 (diag.2102) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh September 1930 new ‘Loose’. To set 199 in 8th October 1935, outshopped paint (2nd July 1938), Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (22nd January 1946), Malachite (18th May 1946) thence to BR(S) Green (25th July 1958). Condemned 12th August 1961.

BSK 4246 (diag.2113) Rstn ‘4’ large corridor windows Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 959 on 3rd July 1936. Damage repairs (27th September 1949 & 29th October 1942), Malachite (15th April 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream (22nd February 1952) and BR(S) Green (4th January 1957). To set 198 c.December 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6604 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh March 1930 new to ‘Loose’. No details until Crimson Lake & Cream May 1953. To ‘new’ set 212 on 1st June 1953 and BR(S) Green 11th March 1957 thence ‘Loose’ by 18th June 1962 CWNA. To set 199 c.December 1962, WR 1st January 1963 and withdrawn November 1964.

BCK 6657 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 199 in January 1930. Outshopped paint (2nd July 1938), Underframe Repairs Eastleigh (29th November 1945), Malachite (18th May 1946), Crimson Lake & Cream with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment side of the coach (8th June 1949) & BR(S) Green (25th July 1958). Condemned December 1962.

 

 

 

 

‘P’ Set 200

 

 

BTK
No.

BCK
No.

200

Jul-30
(2 Cor)

3737
(New)

6588
(ex.Loose)

Disb.

by Nov-59

 

(w Nov-62)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

200

2 Cor set formed July 1930 formed of BTK 3737 & BCK 6588 (both new):

BTK 3737 (diag.2102)
BCK 6588 (diag.2401)

Outshopped from Lancing works paint 5th February 1937, damage repair 24th November 1942, Malachite 24th May 1946 thence to BR(S) Green 7th September 1956 (not painted CLC). Set withdrawn by 7th November 1959.

 

8th May 1963 and a Memo to Works Manager, Carriage and Wagon Works, Eastleigh (reference RS.51/3/1/D titled Withdrawal of Coaching Stock states:

With reference to your conversation with Mr. Double last week; BSKs 2787, 3737, BCKs 6577 and 6588 have, as requested, today been placed in your works for breaking up.

Will you kindly arrange for the bodies and underframes to be cut up, recovering any useable details and also bogies, and if possible the body panels should be fired as I am given to understand that scrap material without any paint etc. on it can more easily be disposed of.

Kindly ensure that all details of the breaking up are recorded on future C.S.R.3 returns’.

 

Coaches used in set

BTK 3737 (diag.2102) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Third built Eastleigh new to set 200 in July 1930. Outshopped paint (5th February 1937), damage repair (24th November 1942), Malachite (24th May 1946) thence to BR(S) Green (7th September 1956) and withdrawn by November 1959. Stored at Basingstoke 7th November 1959 (marked condemned), Seaton Junction 23rd November 1962 thence to Eastleigh for breaking 8th May 1963.

BCK 6588 (diag.2401) Rstn ‘4’ high-window Corridor Brake Composite built Eastleigh new to set 200 in July 1930. Outshopped paint (5th February 1937), damage repair (24th November 1942), Malachite (24th May 1946) thence to BR(S) Green (7th September 1956). To ‘Loose’ June 1962 and withdrawn withdrawn by November 1959. Stored at Micheldever 7th November 1959 thence to Eastleigh for breaking 8th May 1963.

 

 

 

 

Notes

 

§

Diag. 2110 with two lavatory vents.

Cond.

Condemned

Disb.

Disbanded

LW

Maunsell Low Window coach

w

Withdrawn (accompanying date)

Wdn.

Withdrawn

WR

Western Region

 

 

 

‘P’ set 172 at Bodmin North forming a Wadebridge and Padstow service on Monday 20th April 1964. The train is being hauled by an LMS-type Ivatt Class 2 tank engine.
© Ben Brooksbank (Geograph/CC-by-SA)

‘P’ set 172 at Bodmin North forming a Wadebridge and Padstow service on Monday 20th April 1964. The tank engine is a Class 2 ‘Ivatt’ LMS-type.

© Ben Brooksbank (Geograph/CC-by-SA)

 

Liveries

On the Southern Region, coaching stock sets (and multiple-units) were normally repainted (and varnished) as a complete set leading to a significant degree of consistency within each set. Lancing Carriage works was releasing repainted stock in SR Green early-February 1949 with Crimson Lake and Cream (CLC) appearing at least by March 1949.

Initially there was a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on the compartment side of Crimson Lake & Cream liveried stock but this was omitted on the corridor side of high-window stock which gave a rather odd appearance. On 17th August 1949 Bullied put forward proposals to the Railway Executive, one of these being the abandonment of the upper (cantrail level) Crimson Lake band on SR-designed stock.

Whilst sets 23, 172 and 199 were painted Crimson Lake & Cream with this upper (cantrail level) Crimson Lake band subsequent repaints such as set 178 (outshopped September 1950) did not include this.

Interestingly photographic evidence shews set 27 with Cream right up to the cantrail on its compartment side and left-hand numbering (into Lancing 20th September 1949 /outshopped 25th October 1949) compared to set 23 with Crimson Lake beneath the cantrail (into Lancing 31st August 1949 /outshopped 1st November 1949).

Given set 23 entered Lancing nearly three weeks before set 27, it is conceivable the painting of set 23 had been completed before the decision to abandon the upper (cantrail level) Crimson Lake band was implemented (with set 27 possibly still in or about to enter the paint shop enabling the change to be enacted). Set 23 may have needed other work before release, hence being outshopped from Lancing around a week later than set 27.

In February 1951 Southern Region coaches started being outshopped with coach numbers placed on their right-hand end, this being supported by a May 1961 directive.

As part of the abolition of Second Class on 3rd June 1956, Third-class was simply renamed Second-class with the prices and accommodation unchanged. Any remaining pre-nationalisation Third-class figures ‘3’ on coach sides were removed when they came into works for A2-varnishing (or repainting).

However, when permission was given for the Southern Region to return to Green for its Corridor Passenger stock it rapidly embarked on a programme to repaint at the A2 repair for a number of vehicles in order to accelerate the return to Green. The last Crimson Lake & Cream vehicle outshopped from Lancing carriage works appears to have been on 17th July 1956 with the first BR Green set outshopped on 11th July 1956.

The Southern Railway liveries of the coaches used to form sets 22, 23 & 25 to 29 has yet to be determined. In terms of the ‘P’ sets 24, 28, 29 & 198 went straight from SR livery to BR(S) Green (without receiving CLC). Sets 30 & 31 were formed using BR(S) Green stock post-CLC livery and it is currently not known if set 180 received CLC. Set 197 was disbanded by the Southern Railway in Olive Green.

 

Believed to be Malachite Green-livery, BSK coach 3736 of ‘P’ set 199 at Exeter Central (c.1955) coupled to a CLC-liveried coach; presumably 6657 of this mis-matched pair. 
Note the frameless balancing droplights on this coach; this being undertaken when it was refurbished for the Bournemouth Limited in 1938.
© T.A. Barry (Mike King Collection)

Believed to be Malachite Green-livery, BSK coach 3736 of ‘P’ set 199 at Exeter Central (c.1953) coupled to CLC-liveried coach 6657 of this mis-matched pair. The coach number is positioned on the right.

Note the frameless balancing droplights on this coach; this being undertaken when it was refurbished for the Bournemouth Limited in 1938.

© T.A. Barry (Mike King Collection)

 

Set 25

From 1955 set 25 started running as a mis-matched livery pair. Both coaches (6665 & 3780) were outshopped Malachite prior to set formation. CM&EE Record Cards shew set 25 being outshopped from Lancing on 13th July 1955 with 6665 recorded as an E4-exam (this would have included a repaint into Crimson Lake & Cream) whereas 3780 was only recorded as having an A2-exam (a varnish pre-1957) so retained its Malachite livery.

On 14th April 1957 set 25 was once again outshopped from Lancing with 3780 recorded as an E4 exam (this would have included a repaint into BR(S) Green) whereas 3780 was only recorded as having an A2-exam. However, by this time there was a drive to eliminate Crimson Lake & Cream  liveried stock and instead of (A2-exam) varnishing the opportunity was frequently taken to repaint coaches into BR(S) Green.

Coach 3780 was outshopped from its next E4-exam 27th May 1959 with 6665 receiving an A2. Then in early-December 1961 6665 outshopped Lancing E4-exam /3780 outshopped A2-exam followed by 6665 sent to ‘Loose’ to be replaced by 6648 (E4-exam 1954 /A2-exam February 1961). Further information is being sought.

 

 

BCK coach 6657 of ‘P’ set 199 at Exeter Central circa 1955; the set unusually ran with two mis-matched livery coaches. Both were repainted BR(S) Green on 27th July 1958.
Note the frameless balancing droplights on this coach; this being undertaken when it was refurbished for the Bournemouth Limited in 1938.
© T.A. Barry (Mike King Collection)

BCK coach 6657 of ‘P’ set 199 at Exeter Central circa 1953; the set unusually ran with two mis-matched livery coaches.

The coach number’s position is on the left-end of the coach which also carries a broad Crimson Lake band just below the cantrail.

Both coaches were repainted BR(S) Green on 27th July 1958.

Note the frameless balancing droplights on this coach; this being undertaken when it was refurbished for the Bournemouth Limited in 1938.

© T.A. Barry (Mike King Collection)

 

Set 199

This set was specially renovated for Bournemouth Services (outshopped 2nd July 1938).

During the fifties set 199 ran as a mis-matched livery pair and the explanation is not entirely clear. Both coaches (6657 & 3736) entered Lancing 18th March 1946 and were outshopped in Malachite.

BCK 6657 outshopped Crimson Lake & Cream (with a Crimson Lake section below the cantrail on compartment side of the coach) on 8th June 1949. In Crimson Lake & Cream livery, the cream on BSK 6657 did not extend full-height; there being a Crimson Lake section below cantrail level on the compartment side.

As a set, no.199 was outshopped A2-exams Lancing Carriage Works on 24th April 1951, 8th July 1953 and 28th November 1955 (plus a visit to Eastleigh outshopped 22nd January 1954) before outshopping in BR(S) Green (Lancing E4-exam( on 25th July 1958.

 

 

‘P’ Set Livery Table

The table below provides the liveries of these sets including the liveries of those coaches substituted into the sets during their working life (italics) as set out in the CM&EE & Lancing Record Cards.

 

Set No.
(Formed)

Coach No.

SR
Olive

SR
Malachite

BR(S)
CLC

BR(S)
Green

22

2790

1933

(1945?)

27-Dec-50

2-Apr-57

(Feb-47)

6577

13-Nov-48

(1945?)

27-Dec-50

3-Jul-57

 

6691

(31-Mar-30)

n/k

(Nov-50)

13-Apr-57

 

6669

(25-Apr-30)

7-Jun-44

6-Oct-50

4-Jul-57

23

2792

(c.Dec-35)

(1945?)

1-Nov-49

13-Nov-58

(Feb-49)

6575

Jun-29

n/k

1-Nov-49

13-Nov-58

 

6731

(No)

(New)

(No)

(2-Oct-57)

 

6646

(31-Mar-30)

(29-Oct-45)

(14-Feb-54)

(13-Jan-58)

 

6652

(31-Mar-30)

(3-Mar-49)

(No)

(14-Feb-58)

 

6655

(11-Apr-30)

(17-Sep-46)

(5-Sep-54)

(11-Oct-60)

24

2832

Dec-35

20-Jun-47

No

13-Nov-58

(Feb-49)

6602

c.1930

Jul-47

No

13-Nov-58

25

3780

c.Sep-33

20-Jun-47

No

14-Aug-57

(Feb-49)

6665

c.1930

n/k

13-Jul-55

18-Jul-57

6648

(31-Mar-30)

(9-Jan-45)

(13-Sep-54)

(23-Apr-58)

26

2831

c.Dec-35

(1945?)

24-Mar-50

8-Apr-57

(Feb-49)

6586

c.1930

(n/k)

24-Mar-50

8-Apr-57

 

6593

(11-Mar-30)

(24-Jun-47)

(No)

(28-Apr-58)

 

6665

(c.1930)

n/k

(13-Jul-55)

(18-Jul-57)

27

3775

c.Dec-33

(1945?)

25-Oct-49

25-Apr-58

(Feb-49)

6603

c.1930

(n/k)

25-Oct-49

25-Apr-58

6646

(31-Mar-30)

(29-Oct-45)

(14-Feb-54)

(13-Jan-58)

28

2787

c.Dec-33

(8-Oct-47)

No

27-Dec-56

(Feb-49)

6569

c.1930

n/k

No

10-Jan-57

 

4240

c.Jul-36

(21-Oct-46)

(28-May-56)

(3-Jun-58)

6591

(11-Mar-30)

(7-Mar-49)

No

Apr-58

 

6643

(31-Mar-30)

(8-Jul-46?)

(2-Jan-54)

(10-Apr-58)

29

2788

c.Dec-35

(8-Oct-47)

No

21-Jul-58

(Feb-49)

6567

Aug-26

n/k

No

No

 

6643

(31-Mar-30)

(8-Jul-46?)

(2-Jan-54)

(10-Apr-58)

 

6653

(31-Mar-30)

n/k

(17-Nov-49)

(26-Jun-57)

30

3788

c.Sep-33

(20-Jan-48)

(No)

(12-May-58)

(Feb-62)

6668

by Oct-30

(28-Jan-48)

(No)

(25-Apr-58)

 

6601

(20-Mar-30)

n/k

(16-May-51)

by 1962

31

2838

c.Dec-35

(3-Oct-45)

(No)

(15-Aug-58)

(Feb-62)

6598

20-Mar-30

(23-Sep-47)

(21-Jun-55)

(26-Apr-57)

 

6662

(11-Apr-30)

Yes

(9-Feb-51)

(9-May-58

168

2776

14-Dec-35

26-Apr-44

25-May-51

10-Jun-58

(14-Dec-35)

6695

14-Dec-35

26-Apr-44

25-May-51

10-Jun-58

 

6655

(11-Apr-30)

(17-Sep-46)

(5-Feb-54)

(11-Oct-60)

 

6659

(11-Apr-30)

n/k

(1-May-51)

14-Nov-58)

172

2777

8-Oct-35

26-May-44

13-Oct-49

14-Aug-57

(8-Oct-35)

6696

8-Oct-35

26-May-44

13-Oct-49

14-Aug-57

 

6664

(24-Apr-30)

n/k

(18-Sep-51)-

11-Sep-57

178

2836

26-Nov-35

8-May-44

26-Sep-50

27-Oct-58

(26-Nov-35)

6696

26-Nov-35

8-May-44

26-Sep-50

27-Oct-58

 

6666

(24-Apr-30)

(28-May-46)

(6-May-54)

11-Sep-57

 

6650

(31-Mar-30)

n/k

(19-Feb-51)

(6-Feb-58)

179

3732

23-Sep-30

3-Jan-47

17-Apr-56

8-Aug-58

(23-Sep-30)

6673

23-Sep-30

3-Jan-47

17-Apr-56

8-Aug-58

 

2837

(c.Dec-35)

(3-Oct-45)

(No)

(15-Aug-58)

 

6658

(2-May-30)

(29-May-45)

(18-May-54)

(10-Mar-58)

180

3733

9-Oct-30

31-May-48

No

17-Nov-58

(9-Oct-30)

6674

9-Oct-30

31-May-48

No

17-Nov-58

 

6650

(31-Mar-30)

n/k

(19-Feb-51)

(6-Feb-58)

196

2778

8-Oct-35

8-Nov-45

9-Sep-55

30-Dec-59

(8-Oct-35)

6697

8-Oct-35

8-Nov-45

9-Sep-55

30-Dec-59

 

6667

(8-Oct-35)

(8-Nov-45)

(28-Jun-54)

(1-May-58)

197

2779

8-Oct-35

(Apr-46)

(7-Oct-55)

(3-May-57)

(8-Oct-35)

6698

8-Oct-35

Wdn

-

-

198

2780

8-Oct-35

11-Jul-46

18-Oct-55

30-Jan-58

(8-Oct-35)

6699

8-Oct-35

11-Jul-46

18-Oct-55

30-Jan-58

 

4245

(3-Jul-36)

(11-Dec-45)

(22-Feb-52)

(4-Jan-57)

 

6670

(25-Apr-30)

(14-Nov-46)

(7-Jul-54)

(29-Jan-58)

 

6595

(20-Mar-30)

(7-Nov-47)

(No)

(4-Apr-58)

199

3736

Jan-30

18-Mar-46

No

25-Jul-58

(Jan-30)

6657

Jan-30

18-Mar-46

8-Jul-49

25-Jul-58

 

2833

(c.Dec-35))

(21-Aug-47)

(25-Mar-55)

(3-Jun-57)

 

4246

(3-Jul-36)

(15-Apr-46)

(22-Feb-52)

(4-Jan-57)

 

6604

(Mar-30)

n/k

(May-53)

(11-Mar-57)

200

3737

Jul-30

21-May-46

No

7-Sep-56

(8-Oct-35)

6588

Jul-30

21-May-46

No

7-Sep-56

 

 

 

BTK coach 3775 of ‘P’ set 27 at Exeter Central circa 1955.
© T.A. Barry (Mike King Collection)

BTK coach 3775 of ‘P’ set 27 at Exeter Central circa 1953. Note the coach number’s position on the left-end of the coach and the cream livery extending almost up to cantrail level.

© T.A. Barry (Mike King Collection)

 

Diagram Numbers
Notes for 2 Cor (‘P’ Set) Coaches

Diag.

 

 

 

 

 

2102

Maunsell Six-compartment Corridor Brake Third 1930-1932 (high window) rstn.’4’ build (with single lavatory vent).

Nos.3732 & 3733.

Sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 2’, the diagram number is the same for low-window (LW) 1926-1927 ‘pattern ‘1’ builds although none appeared in the ‘P’ sets.

2110

Maunsell Six-compartment Corridor Brake Third 1931 & 1933 (high-window) rstn.’4’ build (with two lavatory vents).

Nos.3775, 3780 & 3788

Sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 2’, there were no low-window (LW) builds using this diagram number.

2113

Maunsell Six-compartment Corridor Brake Third rstn.’4’ build with slender overall finish of each coach assisted by narrow cantrail guttering.

1935 (‘flush-sided’) coach (sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 3’), nos.2776, 2777, 2778, 2779, 2780, 2787, 2788, 2790, 2792, 2831, 2832, 2836, 2837, 2838 being used in ‘P’ sets,

1936 (large corridor window) coach (sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 4’), nos.4240, 4245 & 4246 being used in ‘P’ sets,

Frameless sidelights were virtually flush with the coach sides (larger lights having large radius corners); visible screw heads where bodyside steel sheeting fixed to the wooden sidelight frames.

Two single battery boxes fitted; one each  offset to the left of the coach centreline when each coach side is viewed side-on (replacing former double battery box design).

2401

Maunsell Six-compartment Corridor Brake Composite 1926 (low-window) and 1929-1930 (high-window) rstn.’4’ builds (single lavatory vent).

Nos.6567 (LW), 6569 (LW), 6575, 6577, 6567, 6588, 6591, 6595, 6598, 6601, 6602, 6603, 6604, 6643. 6646, 6648, 6650, 6652, 6653, 6655, 6657, 6658, 6659, 6662, 6664, 6665, 6666, 6667, 6668, 6670 & 6672.

The diagram number is the same for low window (sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 1’) or high window builds (sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 2’).

2403

Maunsell Six-compartment Corridor Brake Composite 1935 (‘flush-sided’) rstn.’4’ build.

Nos.6673, 6674, 6690, 6691, 6695, 6696, 6697, 6698 & 6699.

Sometimes referred to as ‘pattern 3’.

2406

Bulleid Six-compartment Brake Composite with 10¼ sidelight vents, rstn.’4’ built June to September 1948.

No.6731.

All this build of Brake Composites were originally allocated as ‘Loose’.

 

Further diagram numbers referenced in text (but not in ‘P’ sets) as follows:

2302

Maunsell Corridor Composite 1931 (high-window) rstn.’1’ build (Replacement Set 180 CK 2302).

2654

Maunsell Nondescript Brake 1933 rstn.‘1’ build (two lavatory vents). (Replacement Set 180 BSO 4439).

 

 

BSK coach 3732 of ‘P’ set 179 at Bude on Friday, 1st September 1961.
© A.E. West (Mike King Collection)

BSK coach 3732 formerly of ‘P’ set 179
at Bude on Friday, 1st September 1961.

© A.E. West (Mike King Collection)

 

Appendix 1
Set No. Allocations

22–29, 30–31*,168, 172, 178–180, 196, 198–200.

*(Jun-62 to Dec-62 only)

 

 

 

Dates

Allocations

Notes

September 1948
to June 1951

Waterloo – West of England
Waterloo - Swanage

 

September 1951
to June 1958

Waterloo – West of England

From September 1956 to June 1957 Set 168 was allocated to Bournemouth - Chester

September 1958
to December 1962

Western District

‘Cascaded’ down onto local workings

 

The transfer of the lines, West of Salisbury, to the Western Region at the beginning of 1963 saw the surviving sets transferred and subsequently set working was abandoned by the new owners.

 

 

 


Sample SX Diagrams for Summer 1960
Set Nos. 22 – 29, 168, 172, 178 – 180, 196, 198 – 200,

 

Diagram 1

 

Time

Arrive