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Southern Railway
4 SUB
(Nos.
41xx, 42xx, 43xx, 46xx & 47xx)
4 SUB unit no.4672 leaves Holmwood with a Horsham train on 9th
May 1980
©John Atkinson
4 SUB Electric Multiple Units
(built on New and
Recovered Underframes)
Unit nos.4101–4130,
4355–4387, 4277–4299, 4601–4607, 4617-4620 & 4621–4754
The Southern Railway’s existing suburban electric multiple unit
fleet was made up of three-car motor units and two-coach trailer sets. To
replace these, a ten-year program was drawn up to be implemented from 1939 for
a new ‘second generation’ suburban fleet formed of four-car motor units; later
known as the 4 SUB units (4-car SUBurban).
The plan envisaged the construction of thirty new ‘all-steel’ vehicles in three
batches of ten four-car multiple units and fifty-five trailer cars; the latter would
be used to augment the electric 3-Car Motor Units built new about fifteen years earlier.
One hundred and twenty-five trailer sets would be withdrawn, one
car of each of these sets being on a standard SR 62' 0" underframe,
these underframes would be salvaged and used under later vehicles to be built.
Later stages would include a further twenty-three completely new units and one
hundred and seventy-nine trailers to augment the remaining three-car sets and
finally further ‘new’ units would be constructed on underframes recovered from
scrapped vehicles.
The final stage saw the withdrawal of the augmented three-car
sets, the original vehicles for scrapping, and the ‘all-steel’ trailer to be
used with further new motorcoaches to create further completely ‘new’ units.
This plan had the advantages of getting large numbers of new trailers into
service quickly without the need for new traction equipment. However, the
effects of the second world war and later material and staff shortages saw it
somewhat modified.
The highly distinctive ‘Bulleid’ profile of 4 SUB unit
no.4618 awaiting ‘the road’ at Waterloo on
Thursday, 1st May 1980. © John Atkinson |
All units were built at Eastleigh, those on new SR standard 62'
0" underframes having these fabricated at Lancing. Each unit was
close-coupled within, using the standard suburban centre-buffer and three-link
chain arrangement: this being bolted with shackles underneath the headstock
(keeping the centre-buffer under compression). One corridor trailer had a
centre buffer at both ends; the other trailer had a buffer at the one end with
a rubbing plate at the other whilst both motorcoaches had rubbing plates.
On cab ends there was the usual central drawhook with side buffers, these being
self-contained Spencer-Moulton ‘mainline-style’ buffers (as first used on the 6
PUL units). Besides lighting and control jumpers, there was also a 750v (line
voltage) power jumper between units.
All the 4 SUB units could run in multiple with the 2 BIL /2 HAL
/2 NOL /2 SL /2 WIM /3-Car Motor Units & 4 LAV units (up to twelve cars)
but not with the 4 COR (etc) /5 BEL /6 CITY /6 PAN /6 PUL compatible range of
units.
4 SUB vehicles ordered in the following batches
HO
1060 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4101 – 4130 (despite a number of design changes
between the three batches of ten units) |
HO
1094 |
Augmentation
trailer cars 10346 – 10400. This batch
being split as: |
|
1094A
(10346 - 10375), 1094B
(10376 - 10390), 1094C
(10391 - 10400). |
HO
3231 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4355 – 4377 |
HO
3351 |
Augmentation
trailer cars 10230 - 10344 |
HO
3384 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4378 - 4385 and TS for 4386 & 4387 |
HO
3385 |
MBS and TSO
vehicles for units no.4386 & 4387 |
HO
3386 |
Augmentation
trailer cars 10167 – 10169 |
HO
3463 |
Augmentation
trailer cars 10170 – 10229 |
HO
3464 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4277 – 4299 |
HO
3504 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4621 – 4655 |
HO
3505 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4656 – 4659 |
HO
3506 |
All vehicles
for units nos.4660 – 4667 |
HO
3617 |
All ‘new’
vehicles for units nos.4667 - 4709 |
HO
3618 |
MBS vehicles
for units nos.4601 - 4607 and one spare |
HO
3638 |
All ‘new’
vehicles for units nos.4710 - 4754 |
|
Total cars ordered 955. |
Details of 4 SUB vehicles ordered were as follows, with
number range, units allocated, HO number, underframe LOT number (where known),
building date, vehicle type, diagram number and later Southern Region
electrical codes allocated in about 1963. Some vehicles survived long enough to
be allocated much more complex design codes in a national BR system, these are
also shown where applicable.
Vehicle Nos. |
Unit |
HO |
Underframe Lot No. |
Date |
Vehicle |
Diag. |
SR |
BR |
8616-8653 |
4735-4753 |
3638 |
? |
1951 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
8654-8655 |
4754 |
6163 |
? |
1951 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
8901-8935 |
4621-4655 |
3504 |
? |
1949 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
8936-8939 |
4656-4659 |
3505 |
? |
1950 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
8940-8946 |
4660-4666 |
3506 |
? |
1950 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
8947-8989 |
4667-4709 |
3617 |
? |
1950 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
8990-9034 |
4710-4754 |
3638 |
? |
1950-1951 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
10121-10143 |
4277-4299 |
3464 |
? |
1948-1949 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
10144-10166 |
4277-4299 |
3464 |
? |
1948-1949 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
10167-10169 |
Augmentation |
3386 |
4796 |
1948 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
10170-10229 |
Augmentation1 |
3463 |
4796 |
1948 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
10190-10229 |
Augmentation2 |
3463 |
4983 |
1948 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
10230-10345 |
Augmentation |
3351 |
4317 |
1946-1947 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
10346-10400 |
Augmentation |
1094 |
? |
1945-1946 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
EH2630A |
10419-10428 |
4101-4110 |
1060 |
7618 |
1941-1945 |
10-Comp TT |
2012 |
DG |
- |
10429-10438 |
4111-4120 |
1060 |
? |
1946 |
10-Comp TT |
2014 |
DK |
- |
10439-10448 |
4121-4130 |
1060 |
? |
1946 |
(T-T) TT |
2015 |
DM |
EH2650A |
10449-10471 |
4355-43773 |
3231 |
4101 |
1947 |
10-Comp TT |
2014 |
DN |
- |
10472-10481 |
4378-4387 |
3384 |
4983 |
1948 |
10-Comp TT |
2013 |
DN |
- |
10829-10838 |
4378-4382 |
3384 |
4795 |
1948 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CK |
- |
10839-10844 |
4383-4385 |
3384 |
4795 |
1948 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CL |
- |
10845-10848 |
4386-4387 |
3385 |
4795 |
1948 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CL |
- |
10849-10894 |
4277-4299 |
3464 |
4982 |
1948-1949 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
10895-10940 |
4355-4377 |
3231 |
4100 |
1947-1948 |
8-Comp MBT |
2119 |
CH |
- |
10941-10960 |
4101-4110 |
1060 |
7617 |
1941-1945 |
9-Comp MBT |
2118 |
CE |
- |
10961-10980 |
4111-4120 |
1060 |
? |
1946 |
8-Comp MBT |
2119 |
CF |
- |
10981-11000 |
4121-4130 |
1060 |
? |
1946 |
(T-T) MBT |
2120 |
CG |
- |
11301-11370 |
4621-4655 |
3504 |
? |
1949 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
11371-11378 |
4656-4659 |
3505 |
? |
1950 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
11379-11385 |
4660-4663 |
3506 |
? |
1950 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
11386-11392 |
4663-4666 |
3506 |
5430 |
1950 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
11448-11470 |
4355-43774 |
3231 |
4101 |
1947 |
9-Comp TT |
2314 |
DP |
- |
11471-11480 |
4101-4110 |
1060 |
7618 |
1941-1945 |
10-Comp TT |
2312 |
DF |
- |
11481-11500 |
4111-4130 |
1060 |
? |
1946 |
9-Comp TT |
2314 |
DL |
- |
12351-12358 |
4377-4385 |
3384 |
4983 |
1948 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
12359-12360 |
4386-4387 |
3385 |
? |
1948 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
12361-12395 |
4621-4655 |
3504 |
? |
1949 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
12396-12399 |
4656-4659 |
3505 |
? |
1950 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
12400-12406 |
4660-4666 |
3506 |
? |
1950 |
TTO |
2018 |
DR |
EH2660A |
12650-12664 |
4601-46075 |
3618 |
5809 |
1950 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
12665-12750 |
4667-4709 |
3617 |
? |
1950 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
12751-12800 |
4710-4734 |
3638 |
? |
1950-1951 |
MBTO |
2126 |
CM |
EB2650A |
Footnotes |
|
1 |
Four used in units no.4365 - 4368. |
2 |
Nineteen used in units no.4355 -
4364. |
3 |
Fourteen used for augmentation, one
vehicle (10463) experimental ‘saloon’ diagram 2018, code DR. |
4 |
Nine used for augmentation. |
5 |
One spare, used in pre-war unit
no.4590. |
On the heavily-canted Up Slow Line at Clapham Junction, unit
no.4620 leans away from platform 10 whilst en-route
to Waterloo from Chessington South (Thursday, 24th April 1980) © John Atkinson |
Summary
Table
Years verses Unit numbers
Year |
Unit nos. |
1941-1945 |
4101-4110 |
1946 |
4111-4120 |
1946 |
4121-4130 |
1947 |
4355-4377 |
1948 |
4378-4387 |
1948-1949 |
4277-4299 |
1949 |
4621-4655 |
1950 |
4656-4659 |
1950 |
4660-4666 |
1950 |
4601-4607 |
1950 |
4667-4709 |
1950-1951 |
4710-4754 |
1951 |
4735-4754 |
1969 |
4131 & 4132 |
4 SUB unit no.4103 at Surbiton;
the composite trailer being the second coach. Note the extra compartment in
each car, canvas roofs with curved rainstrips above
the motorman’s & guard’s doors. Livery is early BR Green with ‘unicycling
Lion’ crests. The nearest motorcoach (10946) was written off in a collision with 4 EPB no.5115 at Norwood Junction on New Year’s Eve 1968 and replaced by a 2 HAL motorcoach. |
Prototype Units Nos.4101 – 4110
(‘Shebas’)
The prototype ‘second generation’ suburban unit appeared in
September 1941. It was a four-car all‑compartment unit built at Eastleigh
works on Lancing underframes to a new style with much welding and curved
bodysides so that each compartment could seat six‑a‑side. The unit
was numbered 4101 and comprised two 9-compartment motor brake thirds
seating one-hundred & eight, a trailer third with 11- compartments
seating one-hundred & thirty-two and a trailer composite with six first-class
compartments flanked by two third-class at each end and seating sixty first
and forty-eight third, giving a unit total of sixty first and three-hundred
& ninety-six third. The unit was 257' 5" long and weighed
144 tons (motorcoaches 43 tons, trailers 29 tons) and painted in
malachite green livery.
The motorman’s cab was entered by inwards opening doors, then
followed the guard’s brake-van with a pair of outward opening doors on each
side. The cab was 4’ 8¼” in depth, whilst the guard’s compartment was
7’ 5½” wide and there was a swing door on the offside into the cab. Then
followed nine full compartments each seating 12 and 5’ 6” in width. The motorcoach
was to diagram no.2118 and was equipped with EE electrical gear, DH25
compressors and EE339 motors, the motor bogies being of the ‘Central’ type. The
compartments at the end of the motorcoaches adjacent to the guard's compartment
were designated for ‘Ladies Only’.
The 11-compartment trailer third was to diagram no.2012, each
compartment being 5’ 6¾” in width and the 10-compartment trailer composite
was to diagram no.2312, with third-class compartments again 5’ 6¾” wide
whilst the first-class compartments were 6’ 6” wide.
First-class was subsequently discontinued in suburban trains and
with the abolition of Second-class on 3rd June 1956, Third-class was
renamed Second-class. The composite car was thus altered to seat one-hundred
& twenty before unit no.4101 entered service and the unit total was four-hundred
& sixty-eight third. Trailer bogies were the SR standard 9’ 0”
wheelbase bogie with oil axleboxes.
This unit (along with the next nine into service) differed from
all later 4 SUB units in having the older style timber and canvas roofs
and a squarer cab end design similar to the 2 HAL units with which they
could run in multiple.
The sides of the cab on this batch were flat; the body then
changing shape to the rounded sides of the remainder of the unit.
Nine further sets unit nos.4102 ‑ 4110 were
produced between January and April 1945 to an identical design, but being third-class
only from the outset seated four-hundred & sixty-eight. Internally the
units were finished with plywood interior partitions and panelling covered in
medium brown rexine with cream coloured cotton
covering on the ceilings. Seating was the fixed bench type. All ten units were
to order number HO 1060.
Eastleigh Body Pressings
Units nos.4101 - 4110 were the first produced using new jigs at
Eastleigh works, these being used to produce large metal pressings, mostly with
a ¼ light window opening at each end, the outer edges of each pressing
forming the edges of the adjacent doorways. Smaller pressings incorporating
only one ¼ light window were made for each end of the vehicle.
The pressings were curved from gutter to solebar, whilst steel
doors to the same profile were fitted; these each having a droplight window
above which was a small oval light. The droplights were frameless and mounted
on a spring ‘lazy arm’ (allowing then to be opened variable amounts) with a
spring ‘lift rail’ along the top of the droplight to control opening and keep
the window closed by latching into clips at the top when required.
Vehicle ends were also formed of large metal pressings, these having
some vertical ribbing to give added strength. As this batch still had timber
and canvas roofs, they had their gutters in the conventional position at
cantrail level, this was raised higher on later units with steel roofs.
Unit no.4108 approaches Manor
Road Level Crossing (North Sheen) on a Hounslow Loop to Waterloo service (headcode
89). This unit carries the BR carriage roundels on its motorcoaches and air-horns, so the photograph dates from after its 13th June 1963 repaint but prior to Lancing painting yellow panels on units from October 1963. This unit received its yellow panels on 28th February 1966 with its next varnish at Selhurst. |
Into Service
When new, unit no.4101 was put into service on the Victoria to
Orpington route which at that time was one of the railways busiest. It was
joined from April 1942 by the first ‘augmented’ unit no.4131 to make an eight-car
train. However, these units worked throughout the suburban system with unit no.4109
being first used on the South Western lines in January 1946, mostly on the
Guildford via Cobham route.
During their first overhauls the rexine
was replaced by dark brown or maroon and the cotton ceilings painted custard
with toffee brown fittings. With third-class being re-designated as second-class
from 3rd June 1956 the cars were reclassified from MBT to MBS
and TT to TS respectively.
From November 1962 units began to be fitted with two-tone air
horns mounted on the cab roof replacing the whistle, unit no.4101 being done at
Lancing and also gained small yellow warning panels on the cab front, unit no.4110
being one of the first SR units so treated in January 1964.
These units all remained in service until early 1972, two being
reformed as a result of accident damage. Most received all-blue livery but
three units (nos.4104 /4105 & 4109) were withdrawn in the all‑over
green which they had carried since new, although all had full yellow ends
applied between July 1967 and October 1968.
Unit no.4102 was the last 4 SUB unit to be repainted blue
in February 1971. Four units, no.4103 and the three remaining green units (nos.4104
/4105 & 4109) were used for Xmas mails traffic in December 1971 prior to
withdrawal. These units received the class number 405/1 under the BR TOPS
classification system just prior to withdrawal.
Unit
formations, ‘paint dates’, and withdrawal date and scrapping details also
vehicle electrical codes were as below:
Unit No. |
Date |
MBT |
11C TT |
10C TT |
MBT |
Wdn date |
Scrap |
Diag. No |
|
2118 |
2012 |
2312 |
2118 |
|
|
Code |
|
CE |
DG |
DF |
CE |
|
|
4101 |
29-Oct-41 |
10941 |
10419 |
11471 |
10942 |
13-May-72 |
Nov-72 C |
4102 |
19-Dec-44 |
10944 |
10420 |
11472 |
10943 |
13-May-72 |
Jan-73 C |
4103 |
11-Jan-45 |
|
10421 |
11473 |
10945 |
1-Jan-72 |
Jul-72 C |
4104 |
22-Jan-45 |
10948 |
10422 |
11474 |
10947 |
1-Jan-72 |
Jun-72 J |
4105 |
7-Feb-45 |
10950 |
10423 |
11475 |
10949 |
1-Jan-72 |
Jul-72 C |
4106 |
20-Feb-45 |
|
10424 |
11476 |
10951 |
18-Mar-72 |
Feb-73 B |
4107 |
10 Mar-45 |
10954 |
10425 |
11477 |
10953 |
13-May-72 |
Nov-72 C |
4108 |
20 Mar-45 |
10956 |
10426 |
|
10955 |
13-May-72 |
Nov-72 C |
4109 |
11 Apr-45 |
10958 |
10427 |
11479 |
10957 |
1-Jan-72 |
Jul-72 C |
4110 |
7 May-45 |
10960 |
10428 |
11480 |
10959 |
13-May-72 |
Apr-73 A |
Footnotes |
|
6 |
2 HAL MBS, diagram 2116, code CD. |
7 |
8 Compt. MBS, diagram 2119, code
CH. |
8 |
Augmentation trailer, diagram 2013,
code DN. |
Key Letter Code for Scrap Dealers |
|
A |
Marple & Gillott
(Attercliffe). |
B |
Bird Group (Long Marston). |
C |
J. Cashmore Ltd (Newport). |
J |
J. McWilliams Ltd (Shettleston). |
Hybrid unit no.4103 with its replacement
2 HAL motorcoach (ex.2644) working a Coulsdon North to London Bridge service
at Purley on the Up Local (now the Up Fast) c.May
/June 1969. Right over in platforms 5 & 6 two SR-designed EPB units can just be seen on Caterham /Tattenham Corner services. |
Individual Unit Notes nos.4101 - 4110
Unit |
|
4101 |
Unit commenced service 9-Nov-41. Unit to Eastleigh for unspecified repair between 27-Aug-42 and
24-Dec-42 (possible damage?). Unit slightly damaged about February 1946 and repaired at
Lancing during overhaul between 20-Feb-46 and 18-Apr-46. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Epsom Downs,
moving to Horsham in June. After stripping at Selhurst moved to Chichester 23-Oct-72.
Hauled away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. Newport 13-Nov-72. |
4102 |
Unit commenced service 1-Jan-45. MBT 10943 and both trailers damaged in derailment and sidescrape (with 2 HAL?) near London Bridge
11-Nov-54 repaired at Eastleigh between 17-Dec-54 and 11-May-55. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and after withdrawal initially stored
at Crystal Palace, then moved from Selhurst to Reigate 12-Jun-72. Unit back
to Selhurst for stripping 4-Dec-72 prior to movement to Micheldever.
Hauled away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. Newport 8‑Jan‑73. |
4103 |
Unit commenced service 22-Jan-45. Unit in collision with unit no.5115 at Norwood Junction 31-Dec-68,
MBS 10946 withdrawn 25‑Jan‑69 and cut‑up on site 7-Feb-69.
Replaced by 2 HAL MBS 10762 (ex.2644) which seated seventy,
reducing overall unit capacity to four-hundred & thirty-six whilst
increasing weight to 145 tons. Back to traffic 31-Mar-69 in blue livery. Unit withdrawn 1-Jan-72 and after withdrawal stored at
Balcombe by 1-Mar-72, moving back to Selhurst for stripping 10-May-72. Hauled
away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. Newport 1-Jul-72. |
4104 |
Unit commenced service 29-Jan-45. Unit withdrawn 1-Jan-72 and after withdrawal and stripping at
Selhurst unit hauled to Shalford for storage 14‑Jan‑72.
Moved to Basingstoke 31-May-72 and hauled away for scrapping to J. McWilliam
Ltd. (Shettleston) 6-Jun-72. |
4105 |
Unit commenced service 19-Feb-45. Unit hit buffers at London Bridge 25-Nov-60, MBS 10950
and TS 10423 damaged and repaired at Peckham Rye. Unit withdrawn 1-Jan-72 and after withdrawal stored at
Balcombe by 1-Mar-72, moving back to Selhurst for stripping 10-May-72. Hauled
away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. (Newport) 1-Jul-72. |
4106 |
Unit commenced service 5-Mar-45. Unit overhauled Nov‑55. Unit varnished Jun‑61. Unit completely derailed over yard points at Coulsdon North 25-Jul-62,
sent to Lancing for repair between 5-Sep-62 and 11-Jan-63. MBS 10951
damaged in collision with unit no.5248 in Selhurst depot 14-Mar-72 and unit
withdrawn 18-Mar-72, MBS 10952 exchanged with damaged MBS 10896 (ex.4355)
and unit moved to Micheldever for storage c.12-Jun-72.
Moved to Basingstoke 15-Feb-73 and onward for scrapping to Bird Group (Long
Marston) the next day. |
4107 |
Unit commenced service 20-Mar-45. MBS 10952 and TS 10425 derailed on catch points at
Beckenham Junction 3-Dec-63, repaired at Selhurst. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and after withdrawal initially stored
at Crystal Palace, moving to Horsham in June. After stripping at Selhurst
moved to Chichester 23-Oct-72. Hauled away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. (Newport)
13-Nov-72. |
4108 |
Unit commenced service 10-Apr-45. Unit damaged about March 1960 (details unknown) and
repaired at Selhurst between 25-Mar-60 and 31-Mar-60. 10- Compt. TS 11478 badly damaged in converging
collision at Wimbledon Park 28-Dec-60 (possibly in collision with
4 COR unit no.3143) and withdrawn 28‑Jan‑61. Body
stripped at Wimbledon Park then stored at Micheldever
until to Strawberry Hill 30‑Jan‑61 for electrical stripping and
scrapped at Newhaven arriving 28-Feb-61. Replaced by reinstated 10356 (ex. augmented
4 SUB unit no.4334) from 26-Jan-61, also a wooden roofed vehicle weighing
28 tons so overall unit weight now 143 tons. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Crystal
Palace, moving to Horsham in June. After stripping at Selhurst moved to
Chichester 23-Oct-72. Hauled away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. (Newport)
13-Nov-72. |
4109 |
Unit commenced service 26-Apr-45. Unit damaged about December 1959 (details unknown) and
repaired at Eastleigh between 18-Jan-60 and 10-Mar-60. Unit to Lancing for roof repairs between 18-Apr-62 and 15-May-62. Unit withdrawn 1-Jan-72 and stored at Wimbledon Park, moving
to Selhurst for stripping 16-Feb-72. Hauled to Clapham Yard 10-Jun-72 and on
to Salisbury 17-Jun-72, moving for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. (Newport) 19-Jun-72. |
4110 |
Unit commenced service 31-May-45. Unit damaged about January
1947 (details unknown) and repaired at Eastleigh between 27-Jan-47 and
3-Mar-47. MBT 10959 slightly damaged in collision with unit no.4313
at Victoria 8-Dec-49. Unit at Lancing for bogie repair between 18-May-54 and 14-Jun-54
(details unknown). Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and after stripping at Selhurst
hauled to Clapham Yard 15-Jul-72 and on to Micheldever
for storage 22-Jul-72. Hauled away for scrapping to Marple & Gillott (Attercliffe) 5-Apr-73 from Basingstoke. |
Augmentation Trailers Nos.10346 - 10400
The first fifty-five augmentation trailers to order number
HO 1094 were constructed in 1945‑6 and were similar in design to the
10-compartment trailers in units nos.4101 ‑ 4110 though each
compartment was the same width at 6' 1" as no First-class
accommodation was intended. This resulted in the Third-class compartments being
wider than those in the units nos.4101 ‑ 4110 batch. Each
compartment seated twelve passengers giving a total of one-hundred & twenty Third
(later Second) class seats. All these vehicles were built at Eastleigh on new
underframes from Lancing and weighed 28 tons.
Order number HO 1094 was sub-divided into three with
HO 1094A for vehicles 10346 ‑ 10375, HO 1094B for
10376 ‑ 10390 and HO 1094C for 10391 ‑ 10400.
Only the last ten built were of all-steel construction, the
first forty-five having timber and canvas roofs, the last suburban cars built
with this feature with all later 4 SUB vehicles being of the ‘all-steel’
variety. As a result, most of the wooden roofed cars were in fact
withdrawn for scrapping when the unit they were included in was withdrawn in
the late 1950s. However, a few saw further use - four in the 7 TC unit no.900
(later no.701), one in 4 LAV unit no.2926 and one in wooden-roofed 4 SUB unit
no.4108.
The final ten all-steel vehicles all saw further use, four being
converted into de-icing trailers, two going into later 4 SUB units and the
remainder converted to 4 EPB trailers. These cars were initially used to
augment 3-Car Motor Units nos.1285 ‑ 1310 and nos.1496 ‑ 1524
which were renumbered as unit nos.4300 - 4354 respectively. They were
built to diagram number 2013. As both batches of units were being
augmented at the same time, cars were allocated between the batches when they
were completed and not allocated in any sort of number order. Corner armrests
were provided in the all-steel sub-batch (but not the first forty-five built
with timber and canvas roofs). The all-steel sub-batch also had the higher
gutter line, the wooden-roofed ones having a gutter at cantrail level and a
curved rainstrip above.
Following withdrawal, most of these
augmentation trailers were removed from their pre-war units and stored, mostly
at Micheldever with a few on the Didcot, Newbury and
Southampton spur line near Winchester Jct. However, most were not used in
traffic again and were eventually taken to Newhaven for scrapping, usually in
batches of four marshalled between pairs of withdrawn motorcoaches. These were
routed via Strawberry Hill where the motorcoaches were electrically stripped,
before being hauled to Newhaven.
Coach |
New |
To unit(s) |
Withdrawn |
Scrap |
Date |
Diag. No. |
2013 |
|
|
|
|
10346 |
Jun-45 |
4329 |
9-Oct-71 |
A King Ltd (Wymondham) |
Aug-72 |
10347 |
Jun-45 |
4343 |
22-Apr-61 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10348 |
Jun-45 |
4332 |
27-Aug-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10349 |
Jul-45 |
4346 |
9-Oct-71 |
A King Ltd (Wymondham) |
8-72 |
10350 |
Jul-45 |
4354 |
5-Dec-59 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10351 |
Jul-45 |
4328 |
9-Oct-71 |
A King Ltd (Wymondham) |
Aug-72 |
10352 |
Jul-45 |
4339 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
Aug-63 |
10353 |
Aug-45 |
4352 |
22-Nov-75 |
Mayer Newman (Snailwell) |
Oct-76 |
10354 |
Aug-45 |
4341 |
30-Apr-60 |
Newhaven |
Dec-63 |
10355 |
Aug-45 |
4319 |
9-Jul-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10356 |
Aug-45 |
4334 |
13-May-72 |
J Cashmore Ltd (Newport) |
Oct-72 |
10357 |
Aug-45 |
4315 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
c.Sep-63 |
10358 |
Aug-45 |
4342 |
18-Jun-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10359 |
Aug-45 |
4338 |
6-Oct-73 |
A King Ltd (Wymondham) |
Jul-74 |
10360 |
Aug-45 |
4347 |
20-May-61 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10361 |
Aug-45 |
4331 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
Aug-63 |
10362 |
Sep-45 |
4326 |
6-May-61 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10363 |
Sep-45 |
4353 |
27-Aug-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10364 |
Sep-45 |
4337 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
Aug-63 |
10365 |
Sep-45 |
4336 |
14-Nov-59 |
Newhaven |
Dec-63 |
10366 |
Sep-45 |
4316 |
26-Mar-60 |
Newhaven |
Jan-64 |
10367 |
Sep-45 |
4318 |
30-Jan-60 |
Newhaven |
c.Apr-64 |
10368 |
Sep-45 |
4330 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
Nov-63 |
10369 |
Oct-45 |
4309 |
21-May-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10370 |
Oct-45 |
4325 |
7-May-60 |
Newhaven |
Dec-63 |
10371 |
Oct-45 |
4303 |
13-Feb-60 |
Newhaven |
c.Apr-64 |
10372 |
Oct-45 |
4310 |
21-May-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10373 |
Oct-45 |
4350 |
18-Nov-61 |
Newhaven |
Sep-63 |
10374 |
Oct-45 |
4307 |
16-Apr-60 |
Newhaven |
Dec-63 |
10375 |
Oct-45 |
4322 |
4-Nov-61 |
Newhaven |
c.Oct-63 |
10376 |
Nov-45 |
4313 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
Sep-63 |
10377 |
Nov-45 |
4323 |
15-Apr-61 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10378 |
Nov-45 |
4312 |
11-Jun-60 |
Newhaven |
Oct-63 |
10379 |
Nov-45 |
4311 |
15-Nov-60 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10380 |
Nov-45 |
4308 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
c.Sep-63 |
10381 |
Nov-45 |
4302 |
20-Jan-62 |
Newhaven |
Sep-63 |
10382 |
Dec-45 |
4305 |
27-May-61 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10383 |
Dec-45 |
4301 |
4-Nov-61 |
Newhaven |
c.Oct-63 |
10384 |
Dec-45 |
4300 |
19-Apr-58 |
Newhaven |
May-58 |
10385 |
Dec-45 |
4321 |
4-Nov-61 |
Newhaven |
Sep-63 |
10386 |
Jan-46 |
4324 |
4-Nov-61 |
Newhaven |
Sep-63 |
10387 |
Jan-46 |
4320 |
2-Apr-60 |
Newhaven |
Jan-64 |
10388 |
Jan-46 |
4306 |
9-Apr-60 |
Newhaven |
Jan-64 |
10389 |
Jan-46 |
4314 |
29-Apr-61 |
Newhaven |
Jul-63 |
10390 |
Feb-46 |
4317 |
26-Mar-60 |
Newhaven |
Jan-64 |
De-icing
trailer ADS70087 was former all-steel trailer S10400S built in April 1946
& used in 4 SUB 4349 (ex.3 Car Motor Unit). (Ashford Works 19th August 1978) © Tony Watson |
All-Steel Vehicles
Coach |
New |
To unit(s) |
Withdrawn |
Converted |
Date |
Diag. No. |
2013 |
|
|
|
|
Code |
DN |
(SUB) |
|
||
|
DU |
(EPB conversions) |
|
||
10391 |
Feb-46 |
4335 |
- |
15010 |
May-52 |
10392 |
Feb-46 |
4345 |
11-Apr-59 |
DS70050 |
Sep-59 |
10393 |
Mar-46 |
4348 |
30-Mar-74 |
|
|
10394 |
Mar-46 |
4327 |
- |
15228 |
c.May-63 |
10395 |
Mar-46 |
4344 |
- |
15083 |
Nov-65 |
10396 |
Mar-46 |
4340 |
1-Jan-72 |
|
|
10397 |
Mar-46 |
4304 |
4-Jun-60 |
DS70086 |
1960 |
10398 |
Mar-46 |
4333 |
- |
15001 |
Oct-51 |
10399 |
Mar-46 |
4351 |
11-Apr-59 |
DS70051 |
Sep59 |
10400 |
Apr-46 |
4349 |
2-Jul-60 |
DS70087 |
Nov-60 |
Many of these vehicles spent some time in store (usually at Micheldever or on the former Didcot, Newbury and
Southampton line near Winchester Jct) following the
withdrawal of the pre-war units in which they were running, before being taken
to Newhaven for scrapping. One feature of this batch (also seen on the
following units nos.4111 ‑ 4120 batch of 4 SUB units) were
the two-small semi‑circular air vents above the door droplights in place
of the usual oval window. As these doors were fully interchangeable with those
on all other 4 SUB (and the SR type 4 EPB units) many of them appeared on
other vehicles, outliving this batch of cars by many years.
4 SUB unit no.4112 at Waddon 17th
May 1964 (Whit-Sunday) |
Units Nos.4111 – 4120
(‘Marys’)
A further ten complete units were next constructed at Eastleigh
between April and July 1946, all on new underframes from Lancing and numbered
4111 ‑ 4120. These were also ordered as part of order
HO 1060 and were the first all-steel units with a revised cab end design
which was followed on all subsequent 4 SUB units built (i.e. with straight
cab ends without the dome or inset cab doors).
Experience with the earlier unit no.4101 batch led to a revised
seating layout, that of the earlier units now being considered as too cramped,
with insufficient room for standing passengers in the narrow compartments. As a
result, each vehicle in this batch had one less compartment per car, the
motorcoaches now having eight (seating ninety-six), one trailer having ten
(seating one-hundred & twenty) and the other trailer having nine
(seating one-hundred & eight) six of which were wider than usual to
allow possible reinstatement of First-class seating (which never took place).
These six wider compartments were in the centre of the vehicle with normal
width compartments flanking (two at one end /one at the other) with the two
narrower compartments being marshalled against the adjacent motorcoach.
Overall seating capacity of this batch of units was four-hundred
& twenty third and they were of the standard 4 SUB length of
257' 5". Diagram numbers allocated were: MBT diag. no.2119, 9-compartment
TT diag. no.2314 and 10-compartment TT diag. no.2014.
The guard’s brakevan in these units
was slightly wider also at 8' 0½" which became standard in all later
motorcoaches built. Units were fitted with the ‘Central’ type 43" motor
bogies powered by EE339 275hp motors. Motorcoaches weighed 43 tons and
trailers 28 tons giving a unit total of 142 tons.
Internally the units were fitted out similarly to the unit no.4101
batch and this batch were the first to have the much higher gutter line on the car
exterior with nothing along the traditional cantrail area. Subsequent to this,
units nos.4112 /4115 /4118 were fitted with rainstrips
in the traditional position along the cantrail.
Units were close-coupled within, using the standard suburban
centre-buffer and three-link chain arrangement: this being bolted with shackles
underneath the headstock (keeping the centre-buffer under compression). On cab
ends there was the usual central drawhook
with side buffers. The corridor trailer had a centre buffer at both ends; the
non-corridor trailer had a buffer at the third-class end and a rubbing plate at
the first-class end whilst both motorcoaches had rubbing plates.
During first overhaul unit no.4120 had internal partitions
replaced by Formica, ceilings replaced by plastic sheet and other panels
replaced by ‘Hardec’, a plastic-coated plywood
system.
From January 1964 units gained small yellow warning panels on
cab ends, unit no.4117 being one of the first units so adorned. Unit no.4117
was painted blue with small yellow panels in October 1966, whilst units nos.4111
/4112 /4113 /4114 /4115 /4116 /4118 & 4119 gained full yellow ends whilst
still green and unit no.4120 went straight from green to blue with full yellow
ends in July 1967.
Unit nos.4115 & 4118 were withdrawn still in green livery
after use on Xmas mails traffic in December 1971, all other units eventually
being painted blue with full yellow ends. These units were also classified as Class 405/1
under the BR TOPS classification system from 1972. These units remained in
service until withdrawals started in 1972 and all had gone by the end of 1975.
Unit |
Date |
MBT |
10C TT |
9C TT |
MBT |
Withdrawn date |
Scrap |
Diag. No |
|
2119 |
2014 |
2314 |
2119 |
|
|
Code |
|
CF |
DK |
DL |
CF |
|
|
4111 |
30-Apr-46 |
10961 |
10429 |
11481 |
10962 |
13-May-72 |
Oct-72 B |
4112 |
May-46 |
10964 |
10430 |
11482 |
10963 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76 M |
4113 |
24-May-46 |
10966 |
10431 |
11483 |
10965 |
22-Nov-75 |
Jun-76 B |
4114 |
31-May-46 |
10968 |
10432 |
11484 |
|
13-May-72 |
Jan-73 C |
4115 |
7-Jun-46 |
10970 |
10433 |
|
10969 |
1-Jan-72 |
Jun-72 J |
4116 |
20-Jun-46 |
10972 |
10434 |
11486 |
10971 |
13-May-72 |
Aug-73 K |
4117 |
27-Jun-46 |
10974 |
10435 |
11487 |
10973 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76 S |
4118 |
4-Jul-46 |
10976 |
10436 |
11488 |
10975 |
1-Jan-72 |
Jul-72 C |
4119 |
12-Jul-46 |
10978 |
10437 |
11489 |
10977 |
6-Oct-73 |
Mar-75 K |
4120 |
20-Jul-46 |
|
10438 |
11490 |
10979 |
13-May-72 |
Oct-72 B |
Footnotes |
|
9 |
MBS code CH. |
10 |
10-Compt. TS diagram 2013, code DN. |
11 |
Saloon MBS diagram 2126, code CM. |
Key Letter Code for Scrap Dealers |
|
B C J M S |
Bird Group (Long Marston). J. Cashmore Ltd (Newport). J. McWilliams Ltd (Shettleston). Milton Metals
at T. W. Ward (Briton Ferry). A. King Ltd (Snailwell). |
Unit no.4114 upon arrival at Sevenoaks with ‘unicycling Lions’ on its motorcoaches which dates this between June 1950 and December 1957. Note the ‘target’ totems, early barley-twist gas lamps and stone platform face. Both side platforms have long since been removed and the left hand track since realigned to become the Up Fast. |
Individual Unit Notes
Unit |
|
4111 |
Unit commenced service 8-May-46. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and after withdrawal and stripping at
Selhurst hauled to Shalford for storage 23-May-72,
and moved on to Guildford 31-May-72. Moved to Micheldever
5‑Jul‑72, then to Basingstoke 9-Oct-72. Hauled away for scrapping
to Bird Group (Long Marston 18-Oct-72). |
4112 |
Unit commenced service 25-May-46. Unit 4112 appeared in John Schlesinger’s 1961 film ‘Terminus’. Unit damaged in collision (with what?) at Gillingham
depot Apr‑58 and not repaired until c.Oct‑58. Unit out of use Apr-72 and stored at Lancing and withdrawn 11-May-72
but then reinstated 2-Aug-75. However, unit remained out of use at Lancing and stored there
until withdrawn 22-Nov-75 and moved to Selhurst for stripping. Both trailers
from unit no.4361 formed into unit for disposal as a 6-car. Hauled to Micheldever for storage 1-Mar-76 and onwards for
scrapping by Milton Metals at T. W. Ward’s yard (Briton Ferry) 12-Oct-76 from
Salisbury. |
4113 |
Unit commenced service 1-Jun-46. Unit damaged about
August 1952 (details unknown) and both MBT cars and TT 10431 damaged, TT 11483 temporarily
exchanged with damaged 10-compartment 10453 (ex.4551) and unit to Eastleigh for repairs between
9-Sep-52 and 17-Oct-52 reverted to normal formation c.27-Feb-53. Unit out-of-use Apr‑72 and stored at Lancing and
withdrawn 13-May-72 but then reinstated 2-Aug-75. However, unit remained of use at Lancing and stored there
until withdrawn 22-Nov-75 and moved to Selhurst for stripping. Unit hauled to
Micheldever Feb‑76 for store and taken to
Basingstoke 7‑Jun‑76 and moved for scrapping to Bird Group (Long
Marston) from there the following day. |
4114 |
Unit commenced service 17-Jun-46. Unit in collision with light loco near London Bridge 24‑Jul‑49
and MBT 10968 damaged. MBT 10967 exchanged with damaged 10934 (ex.4374)
c.21-Sep-49 and unit to Eastleigh for
repairs, released back to traffic 8-Jun-50. Reverted to original formation Jan‑53.
Unit at Eastleigh for unspecified repair to both MBT cars between
5-Oct-53 and 2-Dec-53 (possible damage?) then to Selhurst for varnish and
released 16-Dec-53. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Crystal
Palace and moved to Reigate 12-Jun‑72. Returned to Selhurst for
stripping 4-Dec-72 and hauled to Micheldever for
storage. Hauled away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. (Newport) 8-Jan-73. |
4115 |
Unit commenced service 17-Jun-46. 9-compartment TS 11485 removed from unit during overhaul
at Lancing between 27-May-63 and 13-Sep-63 for conversion to composite (the
only 4 SUB vehicle ever to run with First-class accommodation). To set no.900
(later 7 TC no.701) from 6-Sep-63 and replaced in no.4115 by 10-compartment
augmentation trailer 10396 (ex.4340 but withdrawn 16‑Jul‑60 and
in store at Micheldever) from 14-Sep-63. Unit then
seated four-hundred & thirty-two. Coach 11485 moved to Eastleigh
14-Aug-63 to be formed into Set 900. Unit withdrawn 1-Jan-72 and after stripping at Selhurst hauled
to Shalford for storage 14-Jan-72. Moved to
Basingstoke 31-May-72 and hauled away for scrapping to J. McWilliam Ltd. (Shettleston)
6‑Jun‑72. |
4116 |
Unit commenced service 5-Jul-46. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Crystal
Palace and following stripping at Selhurst unit hauled to Chart Leacon 6‑Jun‑72. Moved to Herne Hill by 17-Nov-72
and on to Micheldever for storage 2-Dec-72. Moved
to Basingstoke prior to being hauled away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Wymondham)
9‑Jul‑73. |
4117 |
Unit commenced service 5-Jul-46. Unit (with no.4129) damaged in collision with unit no.4374 at
Epsom 28‑Jul‑49 but repaired and varnished at Selhurst between
9-Aug-49 and 18-Aug-49. Unit at Eastleigh for unspecified repair between 26-Jul-50 and
6-Dec-50 (possible damage?). Unit again at Eastleigh for unspecified repair between 16-Dec-52
and 26-Jan-53 (possible damage?). MBS 10974 damaged in derailment at Waterloo South Sidings
3-May-61, TS 10435 also damaged when conductor rail penetrated car end.
Unit to Durnsford Road where 10435 repaired, then
to Micheldever where 10974 was to be removed to
Eastleigh for repair 19-May-61 but the other three cars ‘ran away’ and
MBS 10973 also damaged in subsequent collision so whole unit then sent to Eastleigh for
repairs between 19-Jun-61 and 26-Sep-61. When unit released both cab
interiors had some experimental surface treatment. Unit out of use Apr‑72 and stored at Lancing and
withdrawn May‑72 but then reinstated. Unit moved from Wimbledon Park to Lancing 29-Sep-73 and
withdrawn again 6-Oct-73 though it was officially reinstated again 2-Aug-75
but remained stored at Lancing until withdrawn 22-Nov-75 and moved to
Selhurst for stripping. Hauled to Micheldever for
storage Feb‑76, and onwards for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Snailwell) 11-Oct-76 |
4118 |
Unit commenced service 18-Jul-46. Unit at Eastleigh for unspecified repair between 3-Aug-50 and 9-Nov-50
(possible damage?). Unit withdrawn 1-Jan-72 and after withdrawal stored at
Wimbledon Park, moving to Selhurst for stripping 16-Feb-72. Hauled to Woking
29-Mar-72 and on to Micheldever 15-Apr-72 for
storage and moved away for scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd. (Newport) 13‑Jul‑72. |
4119 |
Unit commenced service 18-Jul-46. Unit to Lancing for storage from Wimbledon Park 2-Oct-73
and withdrawn from there on 6-Oct-73, moving to Selhurst for stripping 17-Oct-73.
Hauled to Clapham Yard Dec‑73 and on to Micheldever
Jan‑74. Moved away for scrapping 28-Aug-74, not arriving at A. King Ltd
(Wymondham) until 15-Mar-75 after a period at Thetford. |
4120 |
Unit commenced service 1-Aug-46. MBS 10980 cab badly damaged in collision with unit no.5335
near Gipsy Hill 18-Dec-61, condemned 27-Jan-62 and broken-up at Durnsford
Road 11-Feb-62. Replaced by eighty-two seat saloon MBS 11363 (ex.4652)
after damage repairs at Lancing which had its EE507 motors replaced by EE339
type at Durnsford Road prior to reform and unit
back to traffic 20-Mar-62. Unit then seated four-hundred & six and
weighed 141 tons. Unit quite badly damaged about February 1968 (details
unknown) and to Eastleigh for C5 repair 6-Mar-68, not released until 29-Nov-68.
Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and after stripping at Selhurst
hauled to Shalford for storage 23-May-72 and moved
on to Guildford 31-May-72. Moved to Micheldever 5‑Jul‑72,
then to Basingstoke 9-Oct-72. Hauled away for scrapping to Bird Group (Long
Marston) 18-Oct-72. |
8 SUB formation with no.4126 in rear passes Wimbledon West
signal box with the 18.04 to Shepperton on 1st June 1972
©BloodandCustard
Semi - Saloon Units
Nos.4121 - 4130
The final batch of ten units in the original 1939 order for
thirty appeared in service between August / October 1946, and were built at
Eastleigh works on new underframes from Lancing and were numbered 4121 ‑ 4130.
This batch of units was also ordered as part of order number HO 1060 and
became known as the ‘Semi‑Saloon’ units.
These units outwardly appeared identical to units nos.4111 ‑ 4120
and were to the now standard 4 SUB length of 257' 5" and weighed
142 tons as previously with the exception of no.4130 (see later).
However, in a further attempt to improve the lot of standing passengers in peak
hours, these units had an experimental internal seating layout. One trailer
(the 9-compartment pseudo-composite) was identical to those in the no.4111
batch with one-hundred & eight seats all in compartments. The other
trailer was of the saloon layout with two internal partitions dividing the car
into saloons of three /four /three seating bays.
At the saloon ends were the usual full-width bench type seats
for six, but within the saloon the seats were arranged with three to one side
and two to the other of an off-centre central gangway. These seats had hammock
slung cushions and unlike later saloon cars, the seating units did not have an
armrest by the central gangway; this car seated one-hundred & six. The
motorcoaches were similar in concept, with one central partition dividing the car
into two bays of four, each car now seating eighty-four. Overall unit capacity
was therefore three-hundred & eighty-two.
Luggage racks above the seats in saloons were made from welded
steel tube which became standard on all later units, though unit no.4130 was
fitted with wrought brass racks as fitted to the COR /BUF /RES units. Unit no.4126
had experimental grab handles fitted by the doors in compartment ‘D’ of the
compartment trailer. The offside gangway was to the nearside in each motorcoach
when that vehicle was leading, that in the saloon trailer was to the same side
as that of the adjacent motorcoach. The 9-compartment trailer was marshalled
with the two narrower compartments against the adjacent motorcoach.
The final unit of the batch (no.4130) was equipped with
experimental EE507 motors, which were lighter in weight at 1.92 tons compared
with the 3.6 tons of the earlier EE339 type. In unit no.4130 these were rated
at 185hp although the many fitted into later units were rated at 250hp. These
motors reduced the weight of the motorcoaches of unit no.4130 to 40 tons
and the overall unit weight to 136 tons. These motors were subsequently
replaced by EE339 ones in December 1955 and the unit reverted to the standard
weight for this batch.
Interior decor was similar to the earlier batches and during
first overhaul units nos.4121 /4122 /4123 /4125 & 4128 were retrimmed
similarly to the no.4111 batch, units nos.4124 /4126 & 4127 being done in
the same style as no.4120. Units nos.4126 ‑ 4129 were given
Formica partitions whilst retaining the rexine
covered panelling, unit no.4129 also later gained cantrail rainstrips.
Units nos.4121 /4124 /4126 & 4127 were painted all-over blue
with small yellow warning panels at Eastleigh during ‘C1’ overhauls during
1966, nos.4122 /4123 /4125 & 4128 gaining full-yellow ends with green
livery at Selhurst during ‘C6‘ overhauls in 1967-1968, whilst nos.4129 /4130
went from green straight to blue with full yellow ends (unit no.4130 being the
first into this state in December 1967). All units eventually gained this
livery on subsequent repaint.
This batch of units started to be withdrawn in 1971 but many of
the motorcoaches were converted for departmental use in ‘new’ de-icing units
converted at Selhurst between 1977 and 1982. These units were also
Class 405/1 under the BR TOPS classification system from 1972.
Unit formations, completion and withdrawal dates were as follows:
Unit No. |
Date |
MBT |
TT |
9C TT |
MBT |
Withdrawn date |
Scrap |
Diag. No |
|
2120 |
2015 |
2314 |
2120 |
|
|
Code |
|
CG |
DM |
DL |
CG |
|
|
4121 |
Aug-46 |
10982 |
10439 |
11491 |
10981 |
16-Apr-76 |
Oct-81 B |
4122 |
23-Aug-46 |
10984 |
10440 |
11492 |
10983 |
13-May-72 |
Apr-73 G |
4123 |
29-Aug-46 |
10986 |
10441 |
11493 |
10985 |
9-Oct-71 |
24‑Jan‑72 K |
4124 |
Aug-46 |
10988 |
10442 |
11494 |
10987 |
20-Apr-76 |
See notes |
4125 |
Aug-46 |
10990 |
10443 |
11495 |
10989 |
23-Apr-76 |
Oct-81 B |
4126 |
Sep-46 |
10992 |
10444 |
|
10991 |
16-Apr-76 |
See notes |
4127 |
Sep-46 |
10993 |
10445 |
|
10994 |
16-Apr-76 |
See notes |
4128 |
Sep-46 |
10995 |
|
11498 |
10996 |
22-Nov-75 |
18-Mar-76 M |
4129 |
15-Oct-46 |
10998 |
10447 |
11499 |
10997 |
13-May-72 |
>Apr-73 G |
4130 |
Oct-46 |
10999 |
|
11500 |
11000 |
22-Nov-75 |
>Mar-76 M |
Footnotes |
|
12 |
10-Compt. semi-saloon TS, diagram
2015, code DM. |
13 |
10-Compt. semi-saloon TS, diagram
2015, code DM. |
14 |
9-Compt. TS, diagram 2314, code DL. |
15 |
9-Compt. TS, diagram 2314, code DL. |
Key Letter Code for Scrap Dealers |
|
B G K M |
Bird Group (Long Marston). Marple & Gillott Ltd (Attercliffe). A. King Ltd (Wymondham). Milton Metals
at T. W. Ward (Briton Ferry). |
Individual Unit Notes
Unit |
|
4121 |
Unit commenced service 2-Sep-46. Unit withdrawn 16-Apr-76 and
semi‑saloon trailer 10439 exchanged with TS 10146 (ex.4279) May‑76
and unit stored at Norwood Yard. MBS cars stored until 20-Feb-77 when used for conversion to
de-icing motorcoaches for unit 005, 10981 renumbered ADB975588 and 10982
renumbered ADB975589, both from 10-Dec-77. Both trailers scrapped by Bird Group (Long Marston) Oct‑81
as part of 8-car ‘4607’. |
4122 |
Unit commenced service 30-Aug-46. Unit damaged early 1965 (details
unknown) and both MBS cars 10983 & 10984 to Eastleigh for repairs
between 19-Jan-65 and 3-May-65. Unit slightly damaged about January 1968 (details unknown)
and repaired at Selhurst between 25-Jan-68 and 30-Jan-68. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Surbiton then
moved to Selhurst for stripping 13-Jul-72. Unit hauled to Micheldever
for storage 5-Aug-72 and hauled away for scrapping from Basingstoke 5-Apr-73
by Marple & Gillott Ltd (Attercliffe) Apr‑73. |
4123 |
Unit commenced service 16-Sep-46. Unit at Lancing for ‘A’ repair between 16-Jul-59 and 11-Aug-59
(possible damage?). Unit damaged in derailment at Strawberry Hill 13-Sep-71 and
condemned 9-Oct-71. Moved to Micheldever for
storage Oct‑71 and hauled away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Wymondham)
24-Jan-72. |
4124 |
Unit commenced service 18-Sep-46. Unit damaged in collision with loco‑hauled train outside
Victoria 12-Feb-48 but repaired. MBS 10988 slightly damaged about September 1966 and unit
to Eastleigh 5-Oct-66 for C1 overhaul and repair, released 11-Nov-66 in blue
livery. Unit withdrawn 20-Apr-76 and semi‑saloon trailer 10442
exchanged with TS 10165 (ex.4298) Jul-76 and unit stored at Norwood
Yard. MBS cars stored until 7-Dec-78 when used for conversion to
de-icing motorcoaches. 10987 renumbered ADB975597 for unit 008 from
30-Jun-79, 10988 renumbered ADB975600 for unit no.010 from 11-Jun-80. Trailers 10165 and 11494 both stored at Micheldever
by 1978 as part of 8-car ‘4647’, later removed and to Horwich works 12-Sep-80
for disposal as part of ‘4647’. |
4125 |
Unit commenced service 16-Sep-46. Unit withdrawn 23-Apr-76 and semi‑saloon trailer 10443
exchanged with TS 10339 (ex.4721) Jun‑76 and unit stored at
Norwood Yard. MBS cars stored until 24-Feb-79 when used for conversion to
de-icing motorcoaches for unit no.009. 10989 renumbered ADB975598 and 10990
renumbered ADB975599, both from 29-Dec-79. Both trailers scrapped by Bird Group (Long Marston) Oct‑81
as part of 8-car ‘4607’. |
4126 |
Unit commenced service 28-Sep-46. 9-compartment TS 11496 withdrawn May‑74 and
exchanged with semi‑saloon TS 10448 (ex.4130) and unit to
Eastleigh 7-May-74 for C1 overhaul, released in new formation 24-May-74.
Seating capacity now three-hundred & eighty. Unit damaged in collision (with what?) at Streatham
Hill 1-Jul-74 but repaired. Unit withdrawn 16-Apr-76 and stored initially at Hounslow and
moved to West Croydon 7-May-76, and both semi‑saloon trailers to unit no.4601
Jun‑76 in reformation at Selhurst. MBS cars stored at Norwood Yard until 15-May-80 when used for
conversion to de-icing motorcoaches for unit no.011. Cars 10991 renumbered
ADB975602 and 10992 renumbered ADB975603, both from 29-Nov-80. |
4127 |
Unit commenced service 30-Sep-46. With unit no.4630, unit slightly damaged in collision with units
nos.5682 + 5669 + 5032 in Wimbledon South Sidings 8-Aug-61. 9-compartment TS 11497 withdrawn May‑74 and
exchanged with semi‑saloon TS 10446 (ex.4128) at Selhurst and unit
to Eastleigh 3-Jun-74 for C1 overhaul, released in new formation 28-Jun-74.
Seating capacity now three-hundred & eighty. Unit withdrawn Apr‑76 and stored initially at Hampton
Court then moved to Streatham Hill 6-May-76; both semi‑saloon trailers
to unit no.4603 Jun‑76 in reform at Selhurst. MBS cars stored at Norwood Yard until 6-Dec-77 when used for
conversion to de-icing motorcoaches. 10993 renumbered ADB975592 for unit no.007
from 21-Oct-78, 10994 renumbered ADB975595 for unit no.002 from 7-Dec-78 (this
unit became no.003 in 1982). |
4128 |
Unit commenced service 11-Oct-46. With unit no.4631, unit damaged in buffer stop collision at
London Bridge 16-May-61 and repaired at Peckham Rye. Unit withdrawn 25-May-74 and semi‑saloon TS 10446
exchanged with 9-compartment TS 11497 (ex.4127) at Selhurst and unit
stripped and moved to store at Micheldever
25-May-74. Unit officially reinstated from 2-Aug-75 but not used and
withdrawn again 22-Nov-75. Unit then to scrap by Milton Metals at T. W.
Ward’s yard (Briton Ferry) moving from Micheldever
18-Mar-76. |
4129 |
Unit commenced service 1-Nov-46. With unit no.4117, unit damaged in collision with unit no.4374
at Epsom 28-Jul-49, unit stored then
cars 10997, 11499 and 10447 all under repair at Eastleigh between 28-Aug-50
and 24-Apr-51. Unit badly damaged once again about September 1955 (details
unknown) and repaired and overhauled at Eastleigh between 29-Sep-55 and 6-Jun-56. Unit withdrawn 30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Crystal
Palace; following stripping at Selhurst unit hauled to Chart Leacon 6-Jun-72. Moved to Herne Hill by 17-Nov-72 and on
to Micheldever for storage 2-Dec-72. Moved to
Basingstoke prior to being hauled away for scrapping 5-Apr-73 to Marple &
Gillott Ltd (Attercliffe). |
4130 |
Unit commenced service 23-Jan-47. Unit withdrawn 11-May-74 and semi‑saloon TS 10448
exchanged with 9-Compt. TS 11496 (ex.4126) at Eastleigh where unit
stripped and then stored at Micheldever from
14-May-74. Unit officially reinstated from 2-Aug-75 but not used and
withdrawn again 22-Nov-75. Unit then to scrap by Milton Metals at T. W.
Ward’s yard (Briton Ferry) moving from Micheldever
11-Mar-76. |
Augmentation
trailer no.10239 was originally used briefly in unit no.4424 thence no.4413, in
1951 it was incorporated into new unit no.4732 and is seen here on 26th
February 1983 following the units repaint from blue to green livery. ©
John Atkinson |
Augmentation Trailers
Nos.10230 - 10345
Following the construction of the semi‑saloon units nos.4121 ‑ 4130,
Eastleigh works then turned out one hundred and sixteen 10-compartment
augmentation trailers on new underframes from Lancing between October 1946 and
June 1947; identical to those built earlier but all of the all-steel variety.
These cars were numbered 10230 - 10345 to order number HO 3351
and all went into pre-war 3-Car Motor Units from various different batches
which were then renumbered into the number range 4401 ‑ 4516.
Many of these units were withdrawn for modifications and there were numerous
exchanges of augmentation trailers between units.
These trailers were inserted into the 3-Car Motor Units at
Selhurst, arriving there in batches of four or six (not in numerical order). However,
after the first thirty-six had been delivered (with thirty used in augmented
units) problems were found with wheels fouling part of the underframe under
crush‑loading conditions, so the six unused vehicles were returned to
Eastleigh for modification and all subsequent deliveries were already modified.
The first thirty were then removed from their units and replaced by modified
cars, returned to Eastleigh for modification and subsequently re‑used in
later augmentations.
The augmented units began to be withdrawn in the early fifties
and all these augmentation trailers were then reformed into new 4 SUB
units or fitted with electro-pneumatic (EP) braking and renumbered into the
150xx series and reformed into new 4 EPB units.
The list below shows the number of the pre-war unit(s) in which
the car ran as an augmentation trailer, the date of this unit’s withdrawal
followed by the number of the 4 SUB or 4 EPB unit into which the car
was eventually formed, with its new number (if applicable).
Coach |
New |
To pre-war |
Disbanded |
New |
To Unit |
Diag. No. |
2013 |
|
|
|
|
Code |
DN (SUB) |
|
|
|
|
|
DU (EPB) |
|
|
|
|
10230 |
8-Jan-47 |
4488 |
c.Jun-50 |
- |
4676 |
10231 |
9-Jan-47 |
4421 |
c.Nov-50 |
- |
4706 |
10232 |
10-Jan-47 |
4495 |
c.Sep-50 |
- |
4692 |
10233 |
8-Jan-47 |
4452 |
c.Dec-c.50 |
- |
4709 |
10234 |
26-Feb-47 |
4407 |
c.Jul-51 |
- |
4735 |
10235 |
4-Mar-47 |
4476 |
c.Apr-51 |
- |
4725 |
10236 |
7-Mar-47 |
4459 |
c.Oct-50 |
- |
4699 |
10237 |
26-Feb-47 |
4465 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4606 (1) |
10238 |
30-Jan-47 |
4464 |
Feb-53 |
15018 |
5018 |
10239 |
4-Feb-47 |
4424 |
c.Jun-51 |
- |
4732 |
10240 |
May-47 |
4448 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4601 (1) |
10241 |
May-47 |
4514 |
c.Aug-51 |
- |
4745 |
10242 |
24-Dec-c.46 |
4462 |
Apr-50 |
- |
4602 (1) |
10243 |
23-Dec-c.46 |
4505 |
c.Feb-51 |
- |
4719 |
10244 |
1-Jan-47 |
4487 |
c.Sep-51 |
- |
4752 |
10245 |
30-Dec-c.46 |
4466 |
Mar-50 |
- |
4601 (2) |
10246 |
May-47 |
4425 |
Mar-56 |
15039 |
5221 |
10247 |
May-47 |
4472 |
c.Jun-50 |
- |
4677 |
10248 |
May-47 |
4463 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4606 (2) |
10249 |
May-47 |
4435 |
May-50 |
- |
4670 |
10250 |
1-Jul-47 |
4455 |
Oct-50 |
- |
4700 |
10251 |
Jul-47 |
4411 |
Mar-53 |
15016 |
5016 |
10252 |
3-Jul-47 |
4511 |
Feb-51 |
- |
4718 |
10253 |
Sep-47 |
4422 |
c.Jul-51 |
15006 |
5006 |
10254 |
Jul-47 |
4405 |
c.Mar-53 |
15021 |
5021 |
10255 |
Jul-47 |
4439 |
c.Jul-51 |
- |
4740 |
10256 |
13-Feb-47 |
4481 |
c.Jan-51 |
- |
4713 |
10257 |
14-Feb-47 |
4502 |
c.Sep-51 |
- |
4754 |
10258 |
Feb-47 |
4433 |
Jun-50 |
- |
4675 |
10259 |
13-Feb-47 |
4478 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4605 (1) |
10260 |
12-Feb-47 |
4424 |
Apr-56 |
15050 |
5232 |
10261 |
17-Feb-47 |
4487 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4669 |
10262 |
14-Feb-47 |
4508 |
c.Feb-51 |
- |
4730 |
10263 |
23-Dec-c.46 |
4445 |
c.Sep-50 |
- |
4694 |
10264 |
14-Jan-47 |
4407 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4668 |
10265 |
25-Dec-c.46 |
4451 |
Apr-50 |
- |
4604 (1) |
10266 |
17-Dec-c.46 |
4490 |
Mar-53 |
15024 |
5024 |
10267 |
13-Jan-47 |
4508 |
c.Aug-50 |
- |
4687 |
10268 |
20-Jan-47 |
4438 |
c.Sep-51 |
- |
4749 |
10269 |
16-Jan-47 |
4478 |
c.Aug-51 |
- |
4747 |
10270 |
17-Jan-47 |
4409 |
c.Jul-50 |
- |
4684 |
10271 |
3-Jan-47 |
4502 |
Nov-50 |
- |
4705 |
10272 |
6-Jan-47 |
4498 |
Apr-53 |
- |
5028 |
10273 |
11-Jan-47 |
4458 |
c.Sep-51 |
15028 |
4743 |
10274 |
7-Jan-47 |
4408 |
c.Jul-50 |
- |
4686 |
10275 |
22-Jan-47 |
4460 |
Apr-56 |
15043 |
5225 |
10276 |
21-Jan-47 |
4434 |
Apr-50 |
- |
4602 (2) |
10277 |
24-Jan-47 |
4455 |
Jul-52 |
15015 |
5015 |
10278 |
23-Jan-47 |
4431 |
Jul-53 |
15030 |
5030 |
10279 |
27-Jan-47 |
4465 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4671 |
10280 |
28-Jan-47 |
4511 |
c.Jul-53 |
15032 |
5032 |
10281 |
27-Feb-47 |
4408 |
c.Feb-53 |
15027 |
5027 |
10282 |
1-Feb-47 |
4427 |
Sep-50 |
- |
4690 |
10283 |
28-Jan-47 |
4481 |
Apr-56 |
15042 |
5224 |
10284 |
25-Feb-47 |
4451 |
Apr-51 |
- |
4724 |
10285 |
Jul-47 |
4426 |
Mar-56 |
15040 |
5222 |
10286 |
25-Feb-47 |
4460 |
c.Oct-50 |
- |
4697 |
10287 |
24-Feb-47 |
4462 |
Mar-50 |
- |
4603 (1) |
10288 |
Jul-47 |
4404 |
c.Aug-51 |
- |
4741 |
10289 |
24-Jul-47 |
4421 |
c.Aug-51 |
|
4750 |
10290 |
Jul-47 |
4440 |
c.Jul-50 |
|
4683 |
10291 |
21-Jul-47 |
4488 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4667 |
10292 |
Jul-47 |
4402 |
Feb-53 |
15017 |
5017 |
10293 |
17-Mar-47 |
4464 |
c.Jun-50 |
- |
4682 |
10294 |
Mar-47 |
4450 |
c.Jan-51 |
- |
4712 |
10295 |
Mar-47 |
4479 |
c.Nov-50 |
- |
4704 |
10296 |
18-Mar-47 |
4438 |
c.Jun-50 |
- |
4674 |
10297 |
Jun-47 |
4456 |
Apr-50 |
- |
4603 (2) |
10298 |
Jun-47 |
4420 |
May-53 |
15026 |
5026 |
10299 |
Jul-47 |
4426 |
Apr-56 |
15048 |
5230 |
10300 |
24-Feb-47 |
4434 |
c.Feb-51 |
- |
4716 |
10301 |
May-47 |
4485 |
c.Sep-50 |
- |
4689 |
10302 |
May-47 |
4410 |
c.Jul-51 |
- |
4751 |
10303 |
May-47 |
4496 |
c.Sep-50 |
- |
4691 |
10304 |
Jun-47 |
4499 |
c.Jul-50 |
- |
4680 |
10305 |
19-Jun-47 |
4466 |
c.Nov-50 |
- |
4701 |
10306 |
Apr-47 |
4432 |
c.Feb-51 |
- |
4717 |
10307 |
Apr-47 |
4449 |
c.Jan-51 |
- |
4715 |
10308 |
Mar-47 |
4506 |
c.Jul-51 |
- |
4737 |
10309 |
25-Apr-47 |
4505 |
Apr-53 |
15023 |
5023 |
10310 |
Jun-47 |
4483 |
Aug-51 |
- |
4738 |
10311 |
Jun-47 |
4500 |
c.Nov-50 |
- |
4703 |
10312 |
Jun-47 |
4416 |
Apr-50 |
- |
4607 |
10313 |
Jun-47 |
4509 |
c.Aug-51 |
- |
4744 |
10314 |
15-Jul-47 |
4458 |
c.Aug-50 |
- |
4685 |
10315 |
Apr-47 |
4513 |
c.Feb-51 |
- |
4727 |
10316 |
Apr-47 |
4423 |
c.Jul-51 |
- |
4746 |
10317 |
May-47 |
4469 |
c.Dec-c.50 |
- |
4708 |
10318 |
May-47 |
4474 |
c.Jun-50 |
- |
4679 |
10319 |
Apr-47 |
4414 |
c.Aug-51 |
- |
4742 |
10320 |
24-Apr-47 |
4495 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4672 |
10321 |
May-47 |
4489 |
c.Jul-50 |
- |
4681 |
10322 |
Apr-47 |
4477 |
Mar-56 |
15041 |
5223 |
10323 |
May-47 |
4494 |
c.Jul-50 |
- |
4678 |
10324 |
May-47 |
4489 |
Jan-51 |
- |
4714 |
10325 |
Apr-47 |
4484 |
c.Apr-50 |
- |
4604 (2) |
10326 |
Jun-47 |
4504 |
c.Sep-51 |
- |
4753 |
10327 |
Jun-47 |
4486 |
c.Sep-50 |
- |
4693 |
10328 |
May-47 |
4507 |
Dec-c.51 |
- |
4631 |
10329 |
Jun-47 |
4482 |
c.Oct-50 |
- |
4698 |
10330 |
Jun-47 |
4443 |
c.Dec-c.50 |
- |
4711 |
10331 |
May-47 |
4475 |
c.Nov-50 |
- |
4702 |
10332 |
Jun-47 |
4401 |
c.Mar-53 |
15019 |
5019 |
10333 |
Jun-47 |
4516 |
Dec-c.51 |
15003 |
5003 |
10334 |
Jul-47 |
4468 |
c.Sep-50 |
- |
4695 |
10335 |
Aug-47 |
4419 |
c.Jan-52 |
15008 |
5008 |
10336 |
Jul-47 |
4471 |
c.Mar-51 |
- |
4726 |
10337 |
Aug-47 |
4480 |
Mar-50 |
- |
4605 (2) |
10338 |
Aug-47 |
4403 |
c.Jul-51 |
- |
4734 |
10339 |
Aug-47 |
4447 |
c.Mar-51 |
- |
4721 |
10340 |
Jul-47 |
4470 |
c.Mar-51 |
- |
4720 |
10341 |
May-47 |
4501 |
c.Mar-51 |
- |
4722 |
10342 |
May-47 |
4493 |
c.Dec-c.50 |
- |
4710 |
10343 |
Jun-47 |
4461 |
c.Dec-c.50 |
- |
4707 |
10344 |
Jun-47 |
4457 |
c.Jun-50 |
- |
4673 |
10345 |
Jun-47 |
4417 |
c.Jul-51 |
15002 |
5002 |
On the rear of
an 8-car train, 4 SUB unit no.4376 with the 17.29 Victoria to East Croydon (Balham
all stations) on 8th June
1972. Note there are grab-handles above /beside the secondman’s
observation light (offside) but not on the motorman’s side. Later deliveries
of 4 SUB units had grab-handles on both sides. © BloodandCustard |
Compartment Units Nos.4355 - 4377
(‘Marys’)
Following on
from the one‑hundred & sixteen augmentation trailers built up to
June 1947, the next 4 SUB order number HO 3231 was for
twenty-three complete units, all on new underframes from Lancing and constructed
at Eastleigh to an identical internal layout to units nos.4111‑4120 as
units 4121-4130 were still regarded as experimental at this stage and further
evaluation of their interior layout was needed before producing more units of
this type. Therefore units nos.4355‑4377 should have consisted of two 8-compartment
motorcoaches, a 10-compartment trailer and a 9-compartment ‘pseudo-composite’
trailer.
However, a
severe shortage of electrical equipment at this time saw these plans badly
disrupted. Trailers for these units were completed following the 10230‑10345
batch of augmentation trailers during the summer of 1947, and a further batch
of sixty-three augmentation trailers followed from January to July 1948.
The motorcoaches were built between September 1947 and June 1948 and
many had to be stored at Micheldever waiting fitment
of traction equipment.
As a result,
planned unit formations were not adhered to, and fourteen of the 10-compartment
trailers and nine of the 9-compartment trailers were used for augmentation
purposes, being replaced by cars from the following batch of sixty-three,
numbered 10167‑10229. This batch of units eventually entered service in
reverse numerical order starting with unit no.4377 in September 1947 and
ending with unit no.4355 in July 1948.
Due to nine of
the ‘pseudo-composite’ trailers being used for augmentation, units 4355 ‑ 4363
had this car replaced by a further 10-compartment vehicle. The first unit to
appear, unit no.4377 included another experimental trailer car, an all‑open
10-bay saloon which featured unusual luggage racks with handrails at the
gangway sides, also advertisement panels between the luggage rack and the seat
back.
This batch of
units all had EE339 motors fitted in a ‘Central‘ type motor bogie, and differed
slightly in appearance from earlier units in that extra grab rails were fitted
on cab ends above and beside the windows, some units having them fitted to both
sides, some only on the offside. This was reportedly due to a shortage of brass
for the hinges of the opening offside cab observation light so this light was
fixed initially on this batch and the grab rails provided to assist staff in
coupling /uncoupling operations.
Units were close-coupled within, using the standard suburban
centre-buffer and three-link chain arrangement: this being bolted with shackles
underneath the headstock (keeping the centre-buffer under compression). On cab
ends there was the usual central drawhook
with side buffers. The corridor trailer had a centre buffer at both ends; the
non-corridor trailer had a buffer at the third-class end and a rubbing plate at
the first-class end whilst both motorcoaches had rubbing plates.
One motorcoach
on the last unit to appear (unit no.4355) also had experimental roller blind
route indicators and the guard’s periscope was fitted with a wiper. If formed
as intended, this batch of units should have seated four-hundred & twenty Third
(MBT ninety-six, 10C TT one-hundred & twenty,
9C TT one-hundred & eight) and units nos.4364-4376 were in fact
so formed.
Unit no.4377
seated four-hundred & two Third due to the inclusion of the all‑open
trailer in place of the 10-compt. one and this car only seated one-hundred
& two Third. Units nos.4355‑4363 seated four-hundred & thirty-two
Third as they included two 10-compt. trailers. Interior trim of these units was
as in the unit nos.4101 batch; they differed from the units nos.4111 batch by
having hammock slung rather the bench type seating.
During first
overhauls, units nos.4355 /4368 /4370‑73 /4376 & 4377 all received
brown or maroon rexine panelling
with toffee /custard paint whilst the remainder were given Formica partitions,
plastic ceilings and ‘Hardec’ panelling.
Units were repainted from green (with small yellow warning panels added from
January 1964) into all‑over blue with full yellow ends, though quite a
few (units nos.4358 /4365 /4367 /4369 /4372 & 4375) received the
intermediate version with blue ends and small yellow panels between September
1966 and January 1967.
Units nos.4355 /4357
/4368 /4370 /4371 /4373 /4376 & 4377 gained full yellow ends with green
livery, unit no.4360 being disbanded whilst still all‑green and the last
of this batch still running in green livery was unit no.4368 (painted blue in
March 1971).
This batch of
units were among the earlier units to be withdrawn due to the fitment of EE339
motors and the large proportion of compartments and began to be withdrawn in
1972, displaced by SR type 2 HAP units downgraded to second class as
2 SAP and moved to the suburban area. They received the BR TOPS
classification Class 405/1 shortly before withdrawal. The remainder (except
unit no.4377) were withdrawn in 1973 and 1974 as further BR type 2 HAP
units were displaced to the suburban area as 2 SAP by newly delivered
4 VEP units, most being initially stored at Lancing prior to electrical
stripping at Selhurst.
Unit formations
are as shewn below, with withdrawal date and key letter code for scrap dealer
also shown.
Unit |
New |
MBT |
10C TT |
10C TT |
MBT |
Wdn date |
Scrap |
||||||
Diag. No. |
|
2119 |
2014 |
2014 |
2119 |
|
|
|
|||||
Code |
|
CH |
DN |
DN |
CH |
|
|
|
|||||
4355 |
6-Jul-48 |
10895 |
10221 |
10220 |
|
30-Apr-72 |
Jun-73
K |
|
|||||
4356 |
24-Jun-48 |
10897 |
10219 |
10218 |
10898 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
S |
|
|||||
4357 |
22-Jun-48 |
10899 |
10216 |
10217 |
10900 |
14-Jul-73 |
Mar-74
K |
|
|||||
4358 |
17-Jun-48 |
10901 |
10214 |
10215 |
10902 |
19-Jan-74 |
May-74
W |
|
|||||
4359 |
18-May-48 |
|
10210 |
10209 |
10904 |
22-Nov-75 |
Jul-76
C |
|
|||||
4360 |
14-May-48 |
10905 |
10208 |
10207 |
10906 |
Sep-64 |
Disbanded |
|
|||||
4361 |
May-48 |
10907 |
10205 |
10206 |
10908 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
M (2) |
|
|||||
4362 |
26-Apr-48 |
10909 |
10199 |
10200 |
10910 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
M |
|
|||||
4363 |
15-Apr-48 |
10911 |
10197 |
10198 |
10912 |
9-Feb-74 |
May-75
M |
|
|||||
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|||||
Unit |
New |
MBT |
10C TT |
9C TT |
MBT |
Wdn date |
Scrap |
|
|||||
Diag. No. |
|
2119 |
2014 |
2314 |
2119 |
|
|
|
|||||
Code |
|
CH |
DN |
DP |
CH |
|
|
|
|||||
4364 |
2-Apr-48 |
10913 |
10196 |
|
|
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
S |
|
|||||
4365 |
25-Mar-48 |
|
|
11462 |
|
15-Feb-69 |
Nov-69
T (3) |
|
|||||
4366 |
15-Mar-48 |
10917 |
10172 |
11469 |
10918 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
S |
|
|||||
4367 |
11-Feb-48 |
10919 |
10171 |
11470 |
10920 |
6-Oct-73 |
See
notes |
|
|||||
4368 |
2-Feb-48 |
|
10170 |
11468 |
10922 |
30-Apr-72 |
Feb-73
B |
|
|||||
4369 |
27-Jan-48 |
|
|
11466 |
10924 |
6-Oct-73 |
Jul-74
K |
|
|||||
4370 |
3-Jan-48 |
10925 |
10461 |
11467 |
10926 |
5-May-73 |
Sep-73
N |
|
|||||
4371 |
31-Dec-47 |
10927 |
10462 |
11463 |
10928 |
6-Oct-73 |
Mar-75
K |
|
|||||
4372 |
24-Dec-47 |
10929 |
10465 |
11464 |
10930 |
30-Apr-72 |
Oct-72
B |
|
|||||
4373 |
Dec-47 |
10931 |
10455 |
11465 |
10932 |
19-Jan-74 |
Apr-74
W |
|
|||||
4374 |
Nov-47 |
10933 |
10454 |
11460 |
10934 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
S |
|
|||||
4375 |
21-Nov-47 |
10935 |
10457 |
11459 |
10936 |
22-Nov-75 |
Oct-76
S |
|
|||||
4376 |
31-Oct-47 |
10937 |
10458 |
11458 |
10938 |
6-Oct-73 |
Jul-74
K |
|
|||||
4377 |
Oct-47 |
10940 |
1046324 |
11457 |
10939 |
22-Apr-76 |
See
notes |
|
|||||
Footnotes |
|
16 |
9-Compt. MBS diagram 2118, code CE |
17 |
Wooden roofed 10-Compt. TS, diagram
2013, code DN. |
18 |
‘All-steel’ 2 HAL MBS, diagram
2127, code CJ. |
19 |
Saloon MBS, diagram 2126, code CM. |
20 |
10-Compt. TS, diagram 2013, code
DN. |
21 |
Saloon MBS, diagram 2126, code CM. |
22 |
Wooden roofed TS, diagram 2013. |
23 |
MBT code CF. |
24 |
Saloon TTO, diagram 2018, code DR. |
Key Letter Code for Scrap Dealers |
|
B |
Bird Group (Long Marston). |
C |
J. Cashmore Ltd (Great Bridge). |
G |
Marple & Gillott Ltd (Attercliffe). |
K |
A. King Ltd
(Wymondham). |
M |
Milton Metals # T. W. Ward
(Briton Ferry). |
N |
A. King Ltd (Norwich). |
S |
A. King Ltd (Snailwell). |
T |
T. J. Thomson & Son, Ltd (Stockton). |
W |
T. W. Ward Ltd (Beighton). |
Unit no.4355 leaves Wimbledon for Hampton Court (30). Note the handrails beside and above both the motorman’s and secondman’s observation lights needed to change the headcode stencils as the latter was non-opening when new. |
Individual Unit
Notes
4355 |
Unit commenced
service 13-Jul-48. MBT 10895
damaged about July 1950 (details
unknown) and repaired at Eastleigh between 3-Aug-50 and 28-Sep-50. Three cars of
unit (not 10896) damaged about April 1957 (details unknown)
and repaired at Lancing between 1-May-57 and 19-Aug-57. MBS 10896
temporarily exchanged with damaged 10834 (ex.4380) whilst this also repaired
at Lancing. Unit involved
in Herne Hill collision 1-Apr-60 (hit tender of 'C' class 31575) and
MBS 10895 badly damaged also both trailers damaged. To Eastleigh for
repair 31-May-60, 10895 with new cab end and using part of underframe from
2 HAL MBS 10798 (ex.2680). Unit released back into traffic
25-Jun-62. MBS 10896
damaged Mar‑72 (where?) and condemned, being scrapped by Bird
Group (Long Marston) Feb‑73 as part of unit no.4106. Replaced by 10952,
a wooden‑roofed 9-Compt. One-hundred & eight seat MBS ex. unit
no.4106; unit now seated four-hundred and forty-four. Unit withdrawn
30-Apr-72 and initially stored at Surbiton.
Following stripping at Selhurst unit formed as a 6-car with both trailers
from unit no.4378 at Clapham Yard before returning
to Selhurst, thence moving to Horsham for storage 16-Jun-72. Unit hauled to
Micheldever 23-Dec-72 and hauled away for scrapping
to A. King Ltd (Wymondham) 19-Jun-73 from Basingstoke. |
4356 |
Unit commenced
service 1-Jul-48. MBS 10898
damaged by fire about January 1960 (details
unknown) and repaired at Lancing between 11-Feb-60 and 12-May-60. Unit moved
from Wimbledon Park to Lancing for storage 27-Feb-74 and withdrawn
2-Mar-74. Unit remained stored at Lancing where it was slightly fire damaged
until moved to Selhurst for stripping 21-May-75. However, it
was officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but not repaired or used and withdrawn
again 22-Nov-75. Hauled to Micheldever for storage
Feb‑76 and moved away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Snailwell) 13-Oct-76. |
4357 |
Unit commenced
service 1-Jul-48. Unit in
collision with headshunt buffers at Effingham Junction 17-Jul-62 and
MBS 10900 damaged, repaired at Wimbledon Park. Unit in
collision with unit no.4643 at Wimbledon Park 9-Jul-73 and MBS 10900
damaged; unit withdrawn 14-Jul-73. Moved to
Selhurst for stripping by Oct‑73 and hauled away for scrapping to
A. King Ltd (Wymondham) from Clapham Yard
26-Feb-74. |
4358 |
Unit commenced
service 24-Jun-48. Unit at
Eastleigh for ‘light repairs’ between 13-Jan-61 and 4-Apr-61 (details unknown). Unit withdrawn
19-Jan-74 and after stripping at Selhurst hauled to Micheldever
for storage 4-Feb-74 and moved away for scrapping to T. W. Ward Ltd
(Beighton) 22-Apr-74, detached (at Tinsley?) and arrived 1-May-74. |
4359 |
Unit commenced
service 24-May-48. Unit in
collision with unit no.4364 at Swanley 7-Jun-58 and MBS 10903 damaged
and exchanged with 10914 (ex.4364) from 18-Jun-58. Unit used for
Xmas mails traffic in December 1973 then stored at Hampton Court and moved to
Lancing for storage 27-Feb-74 from Wimbledon Park, and withdrawn
2-Mar-74. Unit
officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but not used and withdrawn again 22-Nov-75 and
taken to Selhurst for stripping by Jan‑76. Eventually disposed of for
scrapping to J. Cashmore Ltd (Great Bridge) 23-Jul-76. |
4360 |
Unit commenced
service 27-May-48. Unit in
head-on collision with unit no.5247 on shunt neck at Effingham Jct 28-Jul-64 and MBS 10905 badly damaged, cab and brakevan demolished. Unit hauled to Eastleigh 30-Aug-64.
Both MBSs 10905 & 10906 arrived Eastleigh 3-Dec-64 and 10905 condemned
5-Dec-64 and broken-up at Eastleigh works about that date. MBS 10906
to unit no.4720 from 16-Dec-64 after being fitted with an ‘Eastern’ type
motor bogie. Both trailers arrived Eastleigh 6-Dec-64 from Chart Leacon and were renumbered, 10207 as 15082, 10208 as
15081 then sent for store (at Micheldever?) until returned to Eastleigh 20-Apr-65
and overhauled and converted to EP braking and both to ‘new’ unit no.5261
from 6-Aug-65. |
|
|
|
|
|
4361 stored at Crystal
Palace (25th November 1974) © Graham Court |
4361 |
Unit commenced
service 13-May-48. MBS 10907
minor damage when motor bogie took two roads leaving Epsom sidings 12-Dec-62.
Unit withdrawn
11-May-74 and stored at Crystal Palace, officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but
not used and moved back to Selhurst 22-Nov-75 and withdrawn that day. MBS cars then
used for conversion to de-icing motorcoaches for unit no.004. 10907
renumbered ADB975586, 10908 renumbered ADB975587, both from 13-Aug-77
though ready in June. Both trailers formed into 6-car ‘4112’ for disposal. |
4362 |
Unit commenced
service 4-May-48. MBS 10910
slightly damaged when took two roads in Streatham
Hill depot 13-Aug-63. Unit moved
from Wimbledon Park to Lancing for store 29-Sep-73 and withdrawn
6-Oct-73. Officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but not used and taken to Selhurst
for stripping and withdrawn again 22-Nov-75. Unit then
hauled to Hove for store by 5-Apr-76 and on to Micheldever
for further storage, arriving there by Aug‑76 including damaged
4 EPB TS 15072, though this was removed before unit was sent away
for scrapping to Milton Metals # T. W. Ward (Briton
Ferry) 19-Oct-76. |
4363 |
Unit commenced
service 24-Apr-48. Unit used for
Xmas mails traffic in December 1973 and withdrawn 9-Feb-74, moved to
Eastleigh for stripping 17-Feb-74 and taken to Micheldever
for storage 14-May-74. Moved away for scrapping to Milton Metals at
T. W. Ward’s yard at Briton Ferry 11-Mar-75, though not delivered
to scrap dealer until 7-May-75. |
4364 |
Unit commenced
service 12-Apr-48. Unit in
collision with unit no.4359 at Swanley 7-Jun-58 and MBS 10913,
TS 10196 and TS 11461 badly damaged. MBS 10914 to unit no.4359
and replaced by damaged 10903 (ex.4359) from 18-Jun-58. Damaged
vehicles then taken to Ashford for underframe repairs to 10913 and 10196.
Released 20-Apr-59 to Lancing where TS 11461 repaired from 27-Apr-59,
other cars stored until also under repair at Lancing from 5-Nov-59 and unit
released back to traffic in new formation 24-Mar-60. Unit in
further collision at Hampton Court Apr‑70 and MBS 10903 and 9-compt.
TS 11461 both withdrawn, 10903 being withdrawn 9-May-70 and cut‑up
at Wimbledon Park by 22-Aug-70. Damaged unit taken to Micheldever‑ by Jun‑70 as a 3-car for reform,
TS 11461 stored at Micheldever‑ and
withdrawn 9-Oct-71 and scrapped there by 26-Aug-76. Replaced by
‘all-steel’ 2 HAL MBS 10811 (ex.2693) seating eighty-four and 10-compt.
wooden-roofed TS 10353 (ex.7TC unit no.701), and reformed unit moved
from Micheldever‑ to Selhurst 27-Jul-70 for
overhaul. Overall seating capacity unchanged at four-hundred & twenty,
unit now one ton‑lighter in weight at 141 tons. Unit used for
Xmas mails traffic in December 1973 then stored at Hampton Court and moved to
Lancing for storage 28-Feb-74 from Wimbledon Park, and withdrawn
2-Mar-74. Moved to Selhurst for stripping 21-May-75 but officially reinstated
from 2-Aug-75 though not repaired or used and withdrawn again from 22-Nov-75.
Hauled to Micheldever‑ arriving 28-Apr-76 for
storage and away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Snailwell)
12-Oct-76. |
4365 |
Unit commenced
service 6-Apr-48. Unit in
collision with unit no.4627 at Wimbledon station 15-Feb-68 and disbanded.
MBS 10916 damaged, MBS 10915 exchanged with damaged 11314 (ex.4627)
and unit to Eastleigh for C3 overhaul and repair 19-Nov-68. Both trailers
10173 and 11462 overhauled and to unit no.4379 from Jun‑69 and replaced
by damaged TS 10473 (ex.4379) and MBS 10921 (ex.4368). Both MBS cars
10916 & 11314 beyond repair and withdrawn 6-Jul-68. 10916 scrapped at
Eastleigh works c.Sep‑69 (possibly by Meon
Valley Metals). Unit then for scrapping with all cars damaged as a 3-car,
moving from Basingstoke to T. J. Thomson & Son, Ltd (Stockton)
19-Nov-69. |
4366 |
Unit commenced
service 23-Mar-48. Unit withdrawn
16-Feb-74 and stored at Lancing until moved to Selhurst for stripping
21-May-75. Unit officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but not used and withdrawn
again 22-Nov-75. Hauled to Micheldever arriving 28-Apr-76
for storage and moved away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Snailwell) 12-Oct-76. |
|
|
055 (ex.4367)
Ashford Works Open Day (18th August 1978) © Tony Watson |
|
4367 |
Unit commenced
service 19-Feb-48. Unit damaged
about July 1967 (details unknown)
and to Selhurst for repair 1-Aug-67. Unit out of
use by 1-Oct-73 and moved to Lancing for store 4-Oct-73 and withdrawn
6-Oct-73 then moved to Selhurst 26-Oct-73 and converted in early 1974 to
Instruction Unit no.055. All internal partitions removed and gangways fitted
between vehicles within the unit. MBS cars fitted out as classrooms, trailers
with equipment demonstrations. All jumper cables removed from unit ends;
roller blinds and EE507 motors fitted. All cars renumbered in departmental
series:- 10919 to ADB975319, 10171 to
ADB975320, 11470 to ADB975321 and 10920 to ADB975322 with unit released Nov‑74.
Coaches officially renumbered from 15-Mar-75. Unit survived
in this form until withdrawn 6-Nov-85 and sent for scrapping to
C. F. Booth (Rotherham) from
Stewarts Lane 8-May-86 though unit spent a period stored in Tinsley Yard
and not delivered until Jul‑87. |
4368 |
Unit commenced
service 13-Feb-48. Unit at
Eastleigh for unspecified repair between 7-Nov-50 and 15-Feb-51 (possible damage?). Unit in
collision with unit no.4661 about May 1966 (details unknown) and 9-compt. TS 11468 damaged and
temporarily exchanged with 10-compt. TS 8941 (ex.4661). Reverted to
original formation about November 1966. Unit derailed
at Whitton Jct 18-Aug-67 and MBS 10921 down
bank and not recovered until Oct‑67. This car condemned 8-Feb-69 and
scrapped as part of ‘4365’ (as a 3-car) Nov‑69. Replaced in unit no.4368
from Mar‑68 by MBS 10860 (ex.4282) an eighty-two-seat saloon
vehicle. Unit then seated four-hundred & six and weighed 138 tons. Unit withdrawn
30-Apr-72 and initially stored at New Cross Gate then moved to Selhurst for
stripping and hauled to Horsham for storage 16-Jun-72. Then moved to Clapham Yard 13-Nov-72 and on to Micheldever
2-Dec-72. Moved to Basingstoke 15-Feb-73 prior to moving for scrapping to
Bird Group (Long Marston) the next day. |
4369 |
Unit commenced
service 10-Feb-48. MBS 10924
along with 9-Compt. TS 11466 badly damaged in converging collision with
2 BIL unit no.2007 at Horsham 2-Jul-61, unit stored at Hassocks then
repaired at Eastleigh between 22-Mar-63 and 10-May-63. Unit slightly
damaged about July 1967 (details
unknown) and MBS 10924 and TS 11466 damaged, unit to Eastleigh
27-Jul-67 and released 4-Aug-67. Unit in
further collision at Strawberry Hill Mar‑68 and MBS 10923 and
TS 10464 both damaged and withdrawn 12-Apr-69, unit to Micheldever for store, MBS 10924 + TS 11466 to
Eastleigh for repair and overhaul 1-Apr-69, damaged cars scrapped by
T. J. Thomson & Son, Ltd (Stockton) Nov‑69 formed as a
3-car with MBS 10859 (ex.4282). Replaced in unit
no.4369 by eighty-two-seat saloon MBS 12664 (ex.4590 and via units nos.2700
& 4282) and 10-compt. wooden‑roofed TS 10359 (ex.4338 and via units
nos.2926 & 4282) and unit released in new formation 17-Apr-69. Unit then
seated four-hundred & six and weighed 138 tons. Unit withdrawn
13-May-72 but reinstated. Unit withdrawn
6-Oct-73, stored at Micheldever by 30-Jan-74 and
moved for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Wymondham) from there
3-Jul-74. |
4370 |
Unit commenced
service 22-Jan-48. Unit ex.
repairs at Eastleigh 22-Mar-50 (possible
damage?). Unit withdrawn
5-May-73 due to damage (details unknown),
storage details after withdrawal unknown, moved for scrapping to A. King
Ltd (Norwich) (probably from Norwood Yard) 24-Jul-73. |
4371 |
Unit commenced
service 12-Jan-48. Unit stored
briefly at Lancing from 2-Oct-73, withdrawn 6-Oct-73 and moved to Selhurst
17-Oct-73 for stripping. Hauled to Clapham Yard Dec‑73
for storage and on to Micheldever by 30-Jan-74.
Moved away for scrapping 28-Aug-74, not arriving at A. King Ltd (Wymondham)
until 15-Mar-75 after a period at Thetford. |
4372 |
Unit commenced
service 6-Jan-48. Three cars of
unit damaged c.May‑70 (details
unknown) and unit stored at Selhurst until repaired there between
19-Jun-70 and 30-Aug-70. Unit withdrawn
30-Apr-72 and after stripping at Selhurst, unit hauled to Shalford
23-May-72 and on to Guildford 31-May-72 for storage. Moved to Micheldever 5-Jul-72 and then to Basingstoke 9-Oct-72
prior to moving away for scrapping to Bird Group (Long Marston) 18-Oct-72. |
4373 |
Unit commenced
service 29-Dec-47. MBS 10932
derailed on catch points at Coulsdon North 23-Apr-64, repaired at Selhurst? Unit moved
from Wimbledon Park to Lancing 29-Sep-73 for store and withdrawn
6-Oct-73 but reinstated 8-Dec-73 following loss of units nos.4381 & 4640
in a depot fire. After
withdrawal again 19-Jan-74 unit stripped at Selhurst and hauled to Micheldever 4-Feb-74 for storage and moved away for
scrapping to T. W. Ward Ltd (Beighton) 22-Apr-74. |
4374 |
Unit commenced
service 9-Dec-47. MBT 10934
damaged in collision with units nos.4129 & 4117 at Epsom 28-Jul-49 and
repaired by about May‑51 thence to unit no.4114, replaced by 10967 (ex.4114)
from c.21-Sep-49. Reverted to original formation Jan‑53. After
withdrawal 11-May-74 unit stored at Lancing where it remained stored until
moved to Selhurst for stripping 21-May-75. Unit
officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but not repaired or used and withdrawn again
22-Nov-75. Hauled to Micheldever for storage Feb‑76
and moved away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Snailwell)
11-Oct-76. |
4375 |
Unit commenced
service 1-Dec-47. Unit withdrawn
from passenger use 1-Oct-73 but retained for Xmas mails and parcels traffic
until withdrawn 2-Mar-74. Unit moved from Wimbledon Park to Lancing for
storage 27-Apr-74 where it remained stored until moved to Selhurst for
stripping 21-May-75. Unit
officially reinstated 2-Aug-75 but not repaired or used and withdrawn again
22-Nov-75. Hauled to Micheldever for storage Feb‑76
and moved away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Snailwell)
13-Oct-76. |
4376 |
Unit commenced
service 12-Nov-47. Unit derailed
in Wimbledon Park depot 13-Jul-62 and MBS 10937 damaged, repaired at
Lancing between 27-Jul-62 and 20-Aug-62. Unit withdrawn
6-Oct-73 and after stripping at Selhurst, unit stored at Micheldever
by 30-Jan-74 and moved away for scrapping to A. King Ltd (Wymondham)
3-Jul-74. |
4377 |
Unit commenced
service 9-Oct-47. Both MBS cars
10939 and 10940 to 4 LAV unit no.2932 from 23-May-67 until Feb‑68
and trailers stored in meantime at Micheldever with
unit no.2932 MBS cars 10523 and 10524. Unit withdrawn
22-Apr-76 and TSO 10463 exchanged with TS 10144 (ex.4277) from Jun‑76
and unit stored at Norwood Yard. Both MBS cars
stored until 14-Jul-80 when used for conversion to de-icing motorcoaches for
unit no.012. 10939 renumbered ADB975604 and 10940 renumbered ADB975605 (both
from Dec‑81). Both trailers scrapped by Bird Group (Long Marston) Sep‑81
as part of 8-car ‘4606’. |
On a service via Cobham (headcode 42), 4 SUB unit no.4385 enters Guildford off the Guildford New Line in 1955. |
The fourteen 10-Compt.
TTs originally intended for this batch and used for augmentation instead were
as follows:
Car |
New |
Into traffic |
To pre-war |
Disbanded |
New No. |
To unit |
Diag. No. |
2014 |
|
unit/s |
|
|
|
Code |
DN (SUB) or DU
(EPB conversions). |
|||||
10449 |
Aug-47 |
25-Sep-47 |
4569 |
6-May-60 |
- |
4607 |
10450 |
Aug-47 |
11-Sep-47 |
4552 |
8-Sep-56 |
15059 |
5241 |
10451 |
Aug-47 |
29-Sep-47 |
4556 |
Aug-56 |
15055 |
5237 |
10452 |
Aug-47 |
26-Sep-47 |
4572 |
12-May-56 |
15045 |
5227 |
10453 |
Aug-47 |
24-Sep-47 |
4551
|
Nov-56 |
15067 |
5249 |
10456 |
Oct-47 |
Oct-47 |
4521 |
27-Apr-53 |
15025 |
5025 |
10459 |
Oct-47 |
8-Oct-47 |
4564 |
25-Feb-56 |
15036 |
5218 |
10460 |
Oct-47 |
23-Oct-47 |
4579 |
15-Aug-53 |
15033 |
5033 |
10466 |
Sep-47 |
18-Sep-47 |
4537 |
19-May-56 |
15046 |
5228 |
10467 |
Sep-47 |
19-Sep-47 |
4561 |
21-Jul-56 |
15060 |
5242 |
10468 |
Sep-47 |
19-Sep-47 |
4549 |
26-May-56 |
15047 |
5229 |
10469 |
Sep-47 |
22-Sep-47 |
4532
|
29-Sep-56 |
15064 |
5246 |
10470 |
Sep-47 |
1-Sep-47 |
4520 |
18-Feb-56 |
15034 |
5216 |
10471 |
Sep-47 |
25-Sep-47 |
4527 |
14-Jul-56 |
15053 |
5235 |
The
nine 9-Compt. TTs originally intended for this batch and used instead for
augmentation were as follows:
Car |
New |
Into traffic |
To pre-war |
Disbanded |
New No. |
To unit |
Diag. No. |
2314 |
|
unit/s |
|
|
|
Code |
DP (SUB) or DU (EPB conversions). |
|||||
11448 |
Aug-47 |
23-Sep-47 |
4602 |
14-Oct-50 |
- |
4696 |
11449 |
Aug-47 |
8-Sep-47 |
4614 |
7-Jun-51 |
- |
4728 |
11450 |
Aug-47 |
8-Sep-47 |
4613 |
8-Sep-50 |
- |
4688 |
11451 |
Aug-47 |
9-Sep-47 |
4605 |
17-Mar-56 |
15038 |
5220 |
11452 |
Aug-47 |
26-Sep-47 |
4603 |
24-Aug-51 |
- |
4739 |
11453 |
Aug-47 |
23-Sep-47 |
4601 |
4-Jul-51 |
- |
4733 |
11454 |
Aug-47 |
2-Oct-47 |
4606 |
Nov-51 |
15005 |
5005 |
11455 |
Aug-47 |
1-Oct-47 |
4604 |
28-Apr-51 |
- |
4723 |
11456 |
Aug-47 |
2-Oct-47 |
4607 |
circa. |
15080 |
5008 |
Augmentation
Trailers
10167 - 10229
The final batch
of sixty-three augmentation trailers were built at Eastleigh, on new
underframes from Lancing between January and October 1948 and were again 10-Compartment
vehicles seating one-hundred & twenty and weighing 28 tons as previously.
The first three vehicles were to order number HO 3386, the remainder to
order HO 3463.
Twenty-three had
to be used to make up the shortfall of trailers in the unit no.4355‑4377
batch (as mentioned above), the remainder went to augment pre-war 3-Car Motor
Units as intended which were numbered in the series 4517‑4614 although
some numbers were not used and no more than sixty-three units existed at any
one time.
Many of these
augmented units started to be withdrawn after a relatively short time for their
underframes to be recovered for use later in the 4 SUB and 4 EPB
construction programme. There were various reforms so
that these augmentation trailers often saw service in several pre-war units
before all (except two) were converted to EP braking and used in new 4 EPB
units. However, two units were used in 4 SUB units nos.4736 & 4748.
Details were as follows those cars not used for augmentation being marked with
* after car number.
Car |
Date New |
Date into |
To pre-war |
Unit |
New No. |
To Unit |
Diag. No. |
2013 |
traffic |
unit(s) |
Disbanded |
|
|
Code |
DN (SUB) or DU (EPB conversions). |
|||||
10167 |
Jul-48 |
19-Jul-48 |
4534 |
14-Jul-56 |
15054 |
5236 |
10168 |
Jul-48 |
20-Jul-48 |
4550 |
c.12-Dec-56 |
15074 |
5256 |
10169 |
Jul-48 |
14-Jul-48 |
4568 |
7-Jun-52 |
15012 |
5012 |
10170* |
Feb-48 |
13-Feb-48 |
4368 |
- |
- |
- |
10171* |
Feb-48 |
19-Feb-48 |
4367 |
- |
- |
- |
10172* |
Mar-48 |
22-Mar-48 |
4366 |
- |
- |
- |
10173* |
Mar-48 |
6-Apr-48 |
4365 |
- |
- |
- |
10174 |
Jul-48 |
4-Aug-48 |
4571 |
Jun-52 |
15011 |
5011 |
10175 |
Aug-48 |
17-Aug-48 |
4517 |
c.27-Apr-53 |
15022 |
5022 |
10176 |
Jul-48 |
4-Aug-48 |
4553 |
15-Jun-56 |
15049 |
5231 |
10177 |
Aug-48 |
16-Aug-48 |
4519 |
c.24-Mar-53 |
15020 |
5020 |
10178 |
Jul-48 |
29-Jul-48 |
4543 |
15-Sep-56 |
15062 |
5244 |
10179 |
Jul-48 |
29-Jul-48 |
4558 |
c.27-Nov-56 |
15072 |
5254 |
10180 |
Oct-48 |
5-Oct-48 |
4562 |
10-Nov-56 |
15070 |
5252 |
10181 |
Sep-48 |
1-Oct-48 |
4584 |
Apr-51 |
- |